[Advisory] primary curriculum re development
Neil Adam
neil@beaconict.co.uk
Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:09:51 +0000
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Sorry Pete, but I think you are being unreasonable
I am not working in that immediate area, so I hope I have no axe to grind.
I don't see why you have a problem with a=20
colleague requesting support and guidance. This=20
is a sharing community, isn't it? Not everyone=20
has time to focus on everything just as soon as=20
it appears. Requesting other people's input=20
provides starting points, challenges thinking and grows community expertise.
If consultants (and lecturers) don't think they=20
need advice then don't be surprised when schools=20
(or trainee teachers) don't think they need it either
Neil
At 16:08 02/11/2009, Peter Yeomans wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>I think you have articulated the problem very=20
>well ' we would welcome guidance or even app targets'.
>
>Are we so institutionalised that not only=20
>teachers but consultants need guidance from=20
>someone else . We should all be well informed=20
>critical practitioners not lemmings expecting=20
>someone else to solve the problems our=20
>professional dignity should have already eliminated.
>
>Sorry it's blunt . I weep for the futures of our children .
>
>Pete
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On 2 Nov 2009, at 15:25, "Barbara Davies"=20
><<mailto:barbara.davies@rmplc.co.uk>barbara.davies@rmplc.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>The difficulties you are finding are not unfamiliar to me=85..
>>
>>
>>
>>We are beginning to look at the programmes of=20
>>learning which have come from the review of the=20
>>primary curriculum to provide guidance about=20
>>where ICT might be embedded, with a hope that=20
>>whatever is developed now might still be usable=20
>>in a few years time. Also trying to ensure that=20
>>the ICT learned is useful to the pupils learning in other subjects.
>>
>>
>>
>>Would love to see a little more direct guidance=20
>>about ICT as a primary curriculum subject,=20
>>particularly with regard to learning outcomes=20
>>for pupils =96 perhaps even APP statements?
>>
>>
>>
>>Barbara
>>
>>Barbara Davies
>>
>>ICT Consultant
>>
>>The Hucclecote Centre
>>
>>Churchdown Lane
>>
>>Hucclecote
>>
>>Gloucestershire GL3 3QN
>>
>>
>>
>>Tel: 01452 527310
>>
>>Fax: 01452 427258
>>
>>Mobile: 07771 794405
>>
>>
>>
>>From:=20
>><mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org>advisory-admin@talk.naace.org=20
>>[mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] On Behalf Of Walker, Yvonne
>>Sent: 30 October 2009 08:35
>>To: NAACE Advisory (E-mail)
>>Subject: [Advisory] primary curriculum re development
>>
>>
>>
>>I am working with a number of schools to help=20
>>them re develop their curriculum. I am finding a number of difficulties:
>>1) Recently qualified teachers are unable to=20
>>develop their curriculum in terms of topics as=20
>>they have been trained around the QCA
>>2) Longer serving teachers are happier to=20
>>engage with topics but are less confident about=20
>>teaching the complete NC (especially when it comes to ICT!)
>>Personally, I think we need to go right back to=20
>>why we are educating children in the first=20
>>place and that is to give them the necessary=20
>>skills and knowledge to access the 21st century=20
>>world of work successfully. But, that in itself=20
>>is a real problem because most teachers have=20
>>been in education all their lives and just want to stick with what they=
know.
>>My approach to this is to encourage schools to=20
>>think about work related learning and to=20
>>develop their curriculum around this. However=20
>>this is a really big shift for most primary=20
>>schools. Anybody got any comments / ideas /=20
>>case studies that would help me with this?
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>Yvonne Walker
>>
>>Primary ICT Consultant
>>North East Lincolnshire
>>Tel: 01472 323273
>>
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<font size=3D3>Sorry Pete, but I think you are being unreasonable<br><br>
I am not working in that immediate area, so I hope I have no axe to
grind.<br><br>
I don't see why you have a problem with a colleague requesting support
and guidance. This is a sharing community, isn't it? Not everyone has
time to focus on everything just as soon as it appears. Requesting other
people's input provides starting points, challenges thinking and grows
community expertise.<br><br>
If consultants (and lecturers) don't think they need advice then don't be
surprised when schools (or trainee teachers) don't think they need it
either<br><br>
Neil<br><br>
At 16:08 02/11/2009, Peter Yeomans wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">Hello all, <br><br>
I think you have articulated the problem very well ' we would welcome
guidance or even app targets'. <br><br>
Are we so institutionalised that not only teachers but consultants need
guidance from someone else . We should all be well informed
critical practitioners not lemmings expecting someone else to solve the
problems our professional dignity should have already
eliminated.<br><br>
Sorry it's blunt . I weep for the futures of our children
.<br><br>
Pete<br><br>
Sent from my iPhone<br><br>
On 2 Nov 2009, at 15:25, "Barbara Davies"
<<a href=3D"mailto:barbara.davies@rmplc.co.uk">
barbara.davies@rmplc.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br><br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D"">The difficulties you are find=
ing
are not unfamiliar to me=85..<br><br>
<br><br>
We are beginning to look at the programmes of learning which have come
from the review of the primary curriculum to provide guidance about where
ICT might be embedded, with a hope that whatever is developed now might
still be usable in a few years time. Also trying to ensure that the ICT
learned is useful to the pupils learning in other subjects.<br><br>
<br><br>
Would love to see a little more direct guidance about ICT as a primary
curriculum subject, particularly with regard to learning outcomes for
pupils =96 perhaps even APP statements? <br><br>
<br><br>
Barbara<br><br>
Barbara Davies<br><br>
ICT Consultant<br><br>
The Hucclecote Centre<br><br>
Churchdown Lane<br><br>
Hucclecote <br><br>
Gloucestershire GL3 3QN<br><br>
<br><br>
Tel: 01452 527310<br><br>
Fax: 01452 427258<br><br>
Mobile: 07771 794405<br><br>
<br><br>
<b>From:</b>
<a href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">
advisory-admin@talk.naace.org</a>
[<a href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org" eudora=3D"autourl">
mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Walker,
Yvonne<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 October 2009 08:35<br>
<b>To:</b> NAACE Advisory (E-mail)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Advisory] primary curriculum re development<br><br>
<br><br>
I am working with a number of schools to help them re develop their
curriculum. I am finding a number of difficulties: <br>
1) Recently qualified teachers are unable to develop their curriculum in
terms of topics as they have been trained around the QCA <br>
2) Longer serving teachers are happier to engage with topics but are less
confident about teaching the complete NC (especially when it comes to
ICT!) <br>
Personally, I think we need to go right back to why we are educating
children in the first place and that is to give them the necessary skills
and knowledge to access the 21st century world of work successfully. But,
that in itself is a real problem because most teachers have been in
education all their lives and just want to stick with what they know.
<br>
My approach to this is to encourage schools to think about work related
learning and to develop their curriculum around this. However this is a
really big shift for most primary schools. Anybody got any comments /
ideas / case studies that would help me with this?<br><br>
<br><br>
Thanks<br><br>
<br><br>
<b><i>Yvonne Walker<br>
</i></b><br>
Primary ICT Consultant<br>
North East Lincolnshire<br>
Tel: 01472 323273<br><br>
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