[Advisory] primary curriculum re development
Ray Tolley
rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk
Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:39:11 -0000
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Hi, Barbara,
The trouble is that for decades people have had a wrong view of 'technology'
as 'things' rather than 'about people' or processes, ie about meeting human
need.
As an acolyte of prof G.B. Harrison many years ago my thinking has been
greatly influenced by his work. See: http://maximise-ict.co.uk/ICT-01.htm
for more on my ideas. (I did originally write this over a decade ago!)
Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD
ICT Education Consultant
Maximise ICT Ltd
P: <http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/>
http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/
B: <http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/>
http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/
W: <http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm>
http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm
Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009'
From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org]
On Behalf Of Barbara Davies
Sent: 03 November 2009 20:36
To: 'Neil Adam'; advisory@talk.naace.org
Subject: RE: [Advisory] primary curriculum re development
Earlier today, Neil Adam wrote:
Quite agree with you Victor (and Ray)
We are in danger of mistaking technology for ICT. (Just as in the past - and
too often still - we mistook learning software for ICT)
Neil
Thanks Neil, that's my opinion too.
(Would have rejoined the debate sooner, but have not had access to my email
today.)
I was a bit surprised at the emotions in some of the replies to my posting
yesterday. Well that will teach me not to try to make quick comments when I
am pressed for time! To be fair, I didn't express myself very well, so had
the choice of once bitten, twice shy, or trying again. Wonder if I'm about
to regret not taking the first option..
Many of the schools I work with are moving towards a theme based or creative
curriculum (call it what you will) at the same time trying to ensure that
there are clear, progressive learning outcomes for pupils that help to keep
standards high. One of the strategies that many schools used is what is
often known as a "skills based" approach. (Not my favourite terminology,
particularly with regard to ICT.) This means that teachers are clear about
what it is their pupils should learn to do during the year, with teachers
then planning as much of that learning as possible into their themes.
Problems can start when schools look for ICT learning outcomes to allocate
to different year groups. There are so many different suggested ICT skills
lists available on the internet, of widely varying quality, many of them
posted by ICT consultants (possibly also of widely differing quality?), who
apparently shouldn't need to look for any guidance...
This can mean that in one school a pupil is told that to make progress in
ICT s/he needs to:
. ensure that she has used Find and Replace and Word Count;
. check that her presentation contains at least three different
transitions and some action buttons
. be able to use a search engine to find three different websites
with information about World War II.
In another school a pupil of the same age will be challenged to :
. edit his word processed text to make it more persuasive
. consider how to make his presentation more suitable to a KS1
audience, perhaps by reducing the amount of text, increasing the time texts
stays on screen or using bright colours and informative pictures
. investigate the authors of websites to inform how reliable
information on the site might be
Whilst I fully agree with those who say that pupils will find their own way
around the majority of ICT tools, there are some things that can be taught
to help pupils develop their "ICT Capability". But many primary schools
without a specialist ICT leader are struggling to identify what those things
are. That's the sort of guidance to which I was referring.
OK, time to reach for the flak jacket and summon up the courage to click
send..
Barbara
Barbara Davies
Primary ICT Consultant
The Hucclecote Centre
Churchdown Lane, Hucclecote
Gloucestershire GL3 3QN
Tel: 01452 427310
Mobile: 07771 794405
ICT Curriculum Information for Gloucestershire Primary Schools available at:
www.hucclecoteict.org.uk
From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org]
On Behalf Of Neil Adam
Sent: 03 November 2009 10:17
To: <advisory@talk.naace.org>
Subject: Re: [Advisory] primary curriculum re development
Quite agree with you Victor (and Ray)
We are in danger of mistaking technology for ICT. (Just as in the past - and
too often still - we mistook learning software for ICT)
Neil
At 08:20 03/11/2009, VWA Lane wrote:
Surely what they can't teach themselves though is the grammar of film,
the right way to layout a poster, the right choice of fonts, etc. We
need to raise our sights beyond just point and click skills to matters
of quality and purpose and audience otherwise we will fail our students.
Neil Adam
Beacon ICT
Twitter: NeilAdam
www.beaconict.co.uk <http://www.beaconict.co.uk/>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Hi, Barbara,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The trouble is that for decades people have had a wrong =
view of ‘technology’
as ‘things’ rather than ‘about people’ or =
processes, ie
about meeting human need.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As an acolyte of prof G.B. Harrison many years ago my =
thinking
has been greatly influenced by his work. See: <a
href=3D"http://maximise-ict.co.uk/ICT-01.htm">http://maximise-ict.co.uk/I=
CT-01.htm</a>
for more on my ideas. (I did originally write this over a decade =
ago!)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD<br>
ICT Education Consultant<br>
Maximise ICT Ltd<br>
P: </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://raytol=
ley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/</span></a></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>B: </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.ef=
oliointheuk.blogspot.com/</span></a></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><br>
W: </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.ma=
ximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm</span></a></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><br>
</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award =
2009'</span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> advisory-admin@talk.naace.org
[mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Barbara =
Davies<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2009 20:36<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Neil Adam'; advisory@talk.naace.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Advisory] primary curriculum re =
development<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Earlier today, Neil Adam =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Quite agree with you Victor (and =
Ray)<br>
<br>
We are in danger of mistaking technology for ICT. (Just as in the past - =
and
too often still - we mistook learning software for ICT)<br>
<br>
Neil<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Thanks Neil, that’s my =
opinion too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>(Would have rejoined the debate =
sooner, but
have not had access to my email today.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I was a bit surprised at the emotions in some of =
the replies
to my posting yesterday. Well that will teach me not to try to make =
quick
comments when I am pressed for time! To be fair, I didn’t express =
myself
very well, so had the choice of once bitten, twice shy, or trying again. =
Wonder
if I’m about to regret not taking the first =
option……<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Many of the schools I work with are moving towards =
a theme
based or creative curriculum (call it what you will) at the same time =
trying to
ensure that there are clear, progressive learning outcomes for pupils =
that help
to keep standards high. One of the strategies that many schools used is =
what is
often known as a “skills based” approach. (Not my favourite
terminology, particularly with regard to ICT.) This means that teachers =
are
clear about what it is their pupils should learn to do during the year, =
with
teachers then planning as much of that learning as possible into their =
themes.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Problems can start when schools look for ICT =
learning
outcomes to allocate to different year groups. There are so many =
different
suggested ICT skills lists available on the internet, of widely varying
quality, many of them posted by ICT consultants (possibly also of widely
differing quality?), who apparently shouldn’t need to look for any
guidance…..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>This can mean that in one school a pupil is told =
that to
make progress in ICT s/he needs to: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 =
level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style=3D'font-family:Symbol'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]>ensure that she has used Find and Replace =
and
Word Count; <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 =
level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style=3D'font-family:Symbol'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]>check that her presentation contains at =
least
three different transitions and some action buttons <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 =
level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span
style=3D'font-family:Symbol'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]>be able to use a search engine to find =
three
different websites with information about World War II.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>In another school a pupil of the same age will be =
challenged
to :<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 =
level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style=3D'font-family:Symbol'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]>edit his word processed text to make it =
more
persuasive <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 =
level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style=3D'font-family:Symbol'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]>consider how to make his presentation =
more
suitable to a KS1 audience, perhaps by reducing the amount of text, =
increasing
the time texts stays on screen or using bright colours and informative =
pictures<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 =
level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><span
style=3D'font-family:Symbol'><span =
style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>·<span
style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times New =
Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]>investigate the authors of websites to =
inform
how reliable information on the site might be<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Whilst I fully agree with those who say that pupils =
will
find their own way around the majority of ICT tools, there are some =
things that
can be taught to help pupils develop their “ICT Capability”. =
But
many primary schools without a specialist ICT leader are struggling to =
identify
what those things are. That’s the sort of guidance to which I was
referring. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>OK, time to reach for the flak jacket and summon up =
the
courage to click send….<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Barbara<span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>Barbara Davies<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>Primary ICT Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>The Hucclecote Centre<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>Churchdown Lane, Hucclecote<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#76923C'>Gloucestershire GL3 3QN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
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[mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Neil Adam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2009 10:17<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Advisory] primary curriculum re =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Quite agree
with you Victor (and Ray)<br>
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We are in danger of mistaking technology for ICT. (Just as in the past - =
and
too often still - we mistook learning software for ICT)<br>
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Neil<br>
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At 08:20 03/11/2009, VWA Lane wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Surely what they can't teach =
themselves
though is the grammar of film, <br>
the right way to layout a poster, the right choice of fonts, etc. =
We <br>
need to raise our sights beyond just point and click skills to =
matters <br>
of quality and purpose and audience otherwise we will fail our =
students.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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