[Secondary] RE: [Advisory] How do e-portfolios benefit the learning process?

Ray Tolley rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk
Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:04:01 -0000


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Ian wrote:

Because the real world simply doesn't work like that. Most of the early
adopters of social networking sites (and e-portfolios are just a particular
specialist example of this type of content) have numerous accounts on
different applications. 

 

By that argument should we still be using separate and incompatible
applications?  We should still be following the advice of the 'early
adopters' and using BBC 'B's, Betamax and Multiplan.  No, we have moved on -
we currently have good applications that perform in a multitude of ways and
over a wide variety of operating systems and devices: a wordprocessor that
has interactive spreadsheet functions, hyperlinks from the Contents list,
embedded video or MP3 links, the ability to export this note as a .pdf file
or send this wordprocessed document as an e-mail or to read on my iPhone.
And that is how I see the e-Portfolio being used.  Yes we might still use a
range of specialist tools as 'add-ons' but the resultant artefacts can be
stored in one logical place.

 

There is, of course, another danger, that of thinking of an e-Portfolio as a
brand of social networking.  Many of the American institutions in particular
and HE in this country seem to have this same myopic view of the e-Portfolio
and use open blogs or wikis as their so-called 'e-Portfolio'.  No!  Even
before we start thinking about social networking, the e-Portfolio is
primarily a tool for Learning, for self organisation and representation, for
reflection, for planning, for formative assessment by mentors and
presentation to a selected and controlled audience.

 

But my real complaint is about the defence for the status quo, 'have
numerous accounts on different applications.'   Why be overruled by outmoded
technologies? I ask.  Why not contain all of one's assets in one place where
they can be more easily managed, where they can be uploaded, modified or
withdrawn without the risk of outdated artefacts being left forgotten in the
ether?

 

However, actually, I agree with Ian's conclusion: It's all about learning
not administration, procurement frameworks and other bureaucratic systems.
Until teachers have the freedom to teach, to explore and develop their own
teaching styles and to innovate, I doubt that we will ever be able to
motivate and inspire our youngsters as we would wish. 

 

BW

 

Ray Tolley  FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD
ICT Education Consultant
Maximise ICT Ltd
P:   <http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/>
http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/

B:   <http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/>
http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/
W:   <http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm>
http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm
Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009'

 

From: Ian Lynch [mailto:ianrlynch@googlemail.com] 
Sent: 04 November 2009 15:37
To: Ray Tolley
Cc: advisory@talk.naace.org; secondary@talk.naace.org
Subject: Re: [Secondary] RE: [Advisory] How do e-portfolios benefit the
learning process?

 

Andrew stated: Rather than having one eportfolio, a student or a child  may
find themselves creating a variety of eportfolios for different purposes. I
don't see any problem with this.

Hum, I do. (see link:
http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-many-different-e-portfolios.ht
ml  )  Why have separate e-Portfolios for different purposes when the one
e-Portfolio can present different 'views' to different audiences? 


Because the real world simply doesn't work like that. Most of the early
adopters of social networking sites (and e-portfolios are just a particular
specialist example of this type of content) have numerous accounts on
different applications.  I think we can get too hung up on the term
e-portfolio like with IWBs. What we are talking about is a flexible use of
on-line information through which learning can take place and for which the
user can create a subset of their activities to display to interested
parties. To do that a savvy person could use generic tools freely available
on the web now. The deficiency is not in web tools and technologies, its
deficiency in the skills to use what is there and the experience to work in
a different way. Its all about learning not administration, procurement
frameworks and other bureaucratic systems. Until that is grasped I don't
hold out much hope and there is no quick fix. It requires people to have the
motivation to change the way they work. It will happen eventually, the
question is to what extent it can be sped up? Unfortunately, a lot of the
money aimed at trying to do that seems to be actually doing the reverse.

Ian


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Ian wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><i>Because the real world simply doesn't work like =
that.
Most of the early adopters of social networking sites (and e-portfolios =
are
just a particular specialist example of this type of content) have =
numerous
accounts on different applications.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></i></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>By that argument should we still be using separate =
and
incompatible applications?&nbsp; We should still be following the advice =
of the
&#8216;early adopters&#8217; and using BBC &#8216;B&#8217;s, Betamax and =
Multiplan.&nbsp;
No, we have moved on &#8211; we currently have good applications that =
perform
in a multitude of ways and over a wide variety of operating systems and =
devices:
a wordprocessor that has interactive spreadsheet functions, hyperlinks =
from the
Contents list, embedded video or MP3 links, the ability to export this =
note as
a .pdf file or send this wordprocessed document as an e-mail or to read =
on my
iPhone.&nbsp; And that is how I see the e-Portfolio being used.&nbsp; =
Yes we
might still use a range of specialist tools as &#8216;add-ons&#8217; but =
the
resultant artefacts can be stored in one logical place.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>There is, of course, another danger, that of =
thinking of an e-Portfolio
as a brand of social networking.&nbsp; Many of the American institutions =
in
particular and HE in this country seem to have this same myopic view of =
the e-Portfolio
and use open blogs or wikis as their so-called =
&#8216;e-Portfolio&#8217;.&nbsp;
No!&nbsp; Even before we start thinking about social networking, the =
e-Portfolio
is primarily a tool for Learning, for self organisation and =
representation, for
reflection, for planning, for formative assessment by mentors and =
presentation
to a selected and controlled audience.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>But my real complaint is about the defence for the =
status
quo, &#8216;<i>have numerous accounts on different applications.&#8217; =
</i>&nbsp;&nbsp;Why
be overruled by outmoded technologies? I ask.&nbsp; Why not contain all =
of one&#8217;s
assets in one place where they can be more easily managed, where they =
can be
uploaded, modified or withdrawn without the risk of outdated artefacts =
being
left forgotten in the ether?<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>However, actually, I agree with Ian&#8217;s =
conclusion: <i>It&#8217;s
all about learning not administration, procurement frameworks and other
bureaucratic systems</i>.&nbsp; Until teachers have the freedom to =
teach, to
explore and develop their own teaching styles and to innovate, I doubt =
that we
will ever be able to motivate and inspire our youngsters as we would =
wish. <o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>BW<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ray Tolley&nbsp; FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD<br>
ICT Education Consultant<br>
Maximise ICT Ltd<br>
P:&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://raytol=
ley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/</span></a></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>B:&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href=3D"http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.ef=
oliointheuk.blogspot.com/</span></a></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><br>
W:&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a =
href=3D"http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>http://www.ma=
ximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm</span></a></span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><br>
</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#C00000'>Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award =
2009'</span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ian Lynch =
[mailto:ianrlynch@googlemail.com]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 November 2009 15:37<br>
<b>To:</b> Ray Tolley<br>
<b>Cc:</b> advisory@talk.naace.org; secondary@talk.naace.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Secondary] RE: [Advisory] How do e-portfolios =
benefit the
learning process?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Andrew stated: </span>Rather =
than having
one eportfolio, a student or a child&nbsp;&nbsp;may find themselves =
creating a
variety of eportfolios for different purposes. I don't see any problem =
with
this.<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hum, I do. (see link: <a
href=3D"http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-many-different-e-po=
rtfolios.html"
target=3D"_blank">http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2009/10/how-many-diff=
erent-e-portfolios.html</a>
&nbsp;)&nbsp; Why have separate e-Portfolios for different purposes when =
the
one e-Portfolio can present different &#8216;views&#8217; to different
audiences? </span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><br>
Because the real world simply doesn't work like that. Most of the early
adopters of social networking sites (and e-portfolios are just a =
particular
specialist example of this type of content) have numerous accounts on =
different
applications.&nbsp; I think we can get too hung up on the term =
e-portfolio like
with IWBs. What we are talking about is a flexible use of on-line =
information
through which learning can take place and for which the user can create =
a
subset of their activities to display to interested parties. To do that =
a savvy
person could use generic tools freely available on the web now. The =
deficiency
is not in web tools and technologies, its deficiency in the skills to =
use what
is there and the experience to work in a different way. Its all about =
learning
not administration, procurement frameworks and other bureaucratic =
systems.
Until that is grasped I don't hold out much hope and there is no quick =
fix. It
requires people to have the motivation to change the way they work. It =
will
happen eventually, the question is to what extent it can be sped up?
Unfortunately, a lot of the money aimed at trying to do that seems to be
actually doing the reverse.<br>
<br>
Ian<o:p></o:p></p>

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