[Advisory] Re: [Secondary] RE: Virtual Learning 2

Ian Lynch ianrlynch@googlemail.com
Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:26:46 +0000
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On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, P.Twining <P.Twining@open.ac.uk> wrote:

>  We need to bear in mind that for many (maybe even most) families home
> schooling is problematic because of the supervision elements =96 parents =
need
> to go out to work. This is likely to limit the take up of =91pure Virtual
> Learning=92 =96 cos we still need the custodial element that school provi=
des.
>
>
>
> Having said that, my personal view is that there is a great deal of scope
> for complementary or extra-curricula VL provision (there is already quite=
 a
> large market for face to face, one to one, personal tutors outside school
> time).
>
>
>
> Lots of interesting challenges here - but I suspect that gathering childr=
en
> together in physical locations so that they can be supervised, even if th=
ey
> are then studying online, is always going to be an important element of o=
ur
> education system.
>

Especially since when you ask children why they go to school they don't say
the first reason is to learn, its to be with their friends. However, if raw
information is easily available from the web, the activities that take plac=
e
in schools and what is judged as important will have to change or coercion
will be the only way to maintain attendance. Coercive cultures are not know=
n
for their success in promoting learning :-)



>
>
> PeterT
>
>
>
> *From:* Ray Tolley [mailto:rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk]
> *Sent:* 18 November 2009 09:53
> *To:* advisory@talk.naace.org; secondary@talk.naace.org
> *Cc:* 'P.Twining'; 'Mal Lee'
> *Subject:* Virtual Learning 2
>
>
>
> There appears to be a growing demand for on-line or Virtual Learning (VL)
> not only in adult education but also for K-12 if the following article is=
 to
> be believed:
>
>
>
> http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/index.cfm?i=3D61825
>
>
>
> Thus my question is, =91*Is there any guidance for families about on-line
> learning in the UK?=92*   We know that children do not have to go to a
> conventional school if adequate home-schooling is provided.  It just seem=
s
> to me that there could very well be an explosion in VL if the Home-Access
> Programme enables more families to get on line =96 even if NOT communicat=
ing
> with their neighbourhood school.
>
>
>
> Further questions become obvious:  Are there on-line courses similar to
> INGOTS but for other subject areas?  Are the Home-schooling support group=
s
> ready for VL?  Does NAACE or Vital see a role for extra-curricula VL
> advice/support?
>
>
>
> BW
>
>
>
> Ray Tolley  FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD
> ICT Education Consultant
> Maximise ICT Ltd
> P:  http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/
>
> B:  http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/
> W:  http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm
> Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009'
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an exem=
pt
> charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland (SC 03830=
2).
>

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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:04 AM, P.Twini=
ng <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:P.Twining@open.ac.uk">P.Twining@=
open.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">






<div link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">We need to =
bear in mind that for many (maybe even most) families home schooling is pro=
blematic because of the supervision elements =96 parents need to go out to =
work. This is likely to limit the take up of =91pure
 Virtual Learning=92 =96 cos we still need the custodial element that schoo=
l provides.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">=A0</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Having said=
 that, my personal view is that there is a great deal of scope for compleme=
ntary or extra-curricula VL provision (there is already quite a large marke=
t for face to face, one to one, personal tutors
 outside school time). </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">=A0</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Lots of int=
eresting challenges here - but I suspect that gathering children together i=
n physical locations so that they can be supervised, even if they are then =
studying online, is always going to be an important
 element of our education system. </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div>=
<br>Especially since when you ask children why they go to school they don&#=
39;t say the first reason is to learn, its to be with their friends. Howeve=
r, if raw information is easily available from the web, the activities that=
 take place in schools and what is judged as important will have to change =
or coercion will be the only way to maintain attendance. Coercive cultures =
are not known for their success in promoting learning :-)<br>
<br>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div=
 link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" lang=3D"EN-GB"><div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">=A0</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">PeterT</spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">=A0</span><=
/p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 22=
3) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color; border-width: 1pt medium medium=
; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" lang=3D"EN-US">F=
rom:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;" lang=3D"EN-US"> Ray Tolley =
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk" target=3D"_blank">rjt@max=
imise-ict.co.uk</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 18 November 2009 09:53<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:advisory@talk.naace.org" target=3D"_blank">adv=
isory@talk.naace.org</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:secondary@talk.naace.org" targe=
t=3D"_blank">secondary@talk.naace.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> &#39;P.Twining&#39;; &#39;Mal Lee&#39;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Virtual Learning 2</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">There appears to be a growing demand for on-line or =
Virtual Learning (VL) not only in adult education but also for K-12 if the =
following article is to be believed:</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-news/=
index.cfm?i=3D61825" target=3D"_blank">http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/top-=
news/index.cfm?i=3D61825</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thus my question is, =91<i>Is there any guidance for=
 families about on-line learning in the UK?=92</i>=A0=A0 We know that child=
ren do not have to go to a conventional school if adequate home-schooling i=
s provided.=A0 It just seems to me that there
 could very well be an explosion in VL if the Home-Access Programme enables=
 more families to get on line =96 even if NOT communicating with their neig=
hbourhood school.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Further questions become obvious:=A0 Are there on-li=
ne courses similar to INGOTS but for other subject areas?=A0 Are the Home-s=
chooling support groups ready for VL?=A0 Does NAACE or Vital see a role for=
 extra-curricula VL advice/support?</p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">BW</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">Ray Tolley=A0 FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, MBILD<br>
ICT Education Consultant<br>
Maximise ICT Ltd<br>
P:=A0 </span><a href=3D"http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">http://raytolley.v2efolioworld=
.mnscu.edu/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 12=
5);"></span></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 1=
25);">B:=A0
</span><a href=3D"http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank"=
><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/</s=
pan></a><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><br>
W:=A0 </span><a href=3D"http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm" target=
=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt;">http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/=
eFolio-01.htm</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);"><br>

</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(192, 0, 0);">Winner of th=
e IMS &#39;Leadership Regional Award 2009&#39;</span><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);"></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
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