[Secondary] FW: [Advisory] Online Reporting in Primary Schools
J Meades
meades@gmail.com
Thu, 31 Dec 2009 22:39:37 +0000
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Hi everyone
I suspect that many secondary schools may not fully appreciate the
possibilities and potential pitfalls associated with providing 'online
reporting'. I believe that we have a role to play here in identifying
aspirational requirements that schools can have when faced with the
offerings of most suppliers who, I suspect, will be providing the basic
minimum to 'cover' their perception of online reporting. Whilst there has
been consultation, most suppliers will also be bound by their own technical
limitations of their products.
Whilst Tony mentions below the information required to be available to
parents accessing the information online, there are some important aspects
which also need to be included and some will be a challenge to some
suppliers. On the face of it, the flow of information is only required to
flow in one direction - in a sense, it is the same information currently
provided by schools in printed format. I would like to see the access
extended to include a return flow from parent to teacher, mentor, tutor, et=
c
- an almost social network supporting the student's learning - a learning
network.
Reporting online a student's attendance and behaviour is relatively
straightforward provided the appropriate internal processes and digital
systems are in place. It's possible that schools will be challenged in thos=
e
areas and will need support.
Whilst 'attainment' is important, it is the indication of 'progress' in an
understandable format which is vital to the online conversation or any
conversation concerning learning - an online conversation offers more
opportunities for parental engagement than the very occasional parents
evening. This is coupled with learning plans, statement and support of
special needs, both of which can be negotiated and reviewed online as the
student progresses.
I'd like to think that 'real-time' reporting is made up of all those
formative assessments and feedback that can be available online as part of
the student's ePortfolio or from within an appropriate learning platform.
Happy New Year and best wishes,
Jeremy Meades
Director of ICT Strategy & e-Learning
SchoolsICT Limited
e: jeremy.meades@schoolsict.net
w: http://schoolsict.net
2009/12/31 Tony Parkin <Tony.Parkin@ssatrust.org.uk>
> Fergus
>
> ... and it may be worth a reminder to those schools exploring this journ=
ey
> of the 'expectations' in this area, as currently delineated on the Becta
> website.....?
> Ray might even like to ask suppliers in his calls how their offerings
> measure up against these requirements?
>
> "What is online reporting?
>
> Online reporting involves using ICT to enable parents to receive and acce=
ss
> information about their children=92s work, progress, attendance and behav=
iour
> when and where they want, using secure, online access.
>
> What do I have to do and when?
>
> Secondary schools are expected to make the following information availabl=
e
> to parents through secure online access by September 2010:
> * Attendance and behaviour (both positive and challenging)
> * Progress and attainment
> * Special needs
> All primary schools are expected to achieve this by September 2012."
>
> It is worth noting that not all these aspects are addressed in some of th=
e
> solutions being promoted to schools as ideal ways of meeting these
> aspirations.
>
> Also perhaps that 'real-time reporting', though clearly invaluable and
> undoubtedly welcomed by parents, is NOT part of the specification?
>
> Tony
> --------------------------------------------
> Tony Parkin
> Head of ICT Development
> Specialist Schools & Academies Trust
> 17th Floor, Millbank Tower
> 21-24 Millbank
> London SW1P 4QP
>
> Email:tony.parkin@ssatrust.org.uk <Email%3Atony.parkin@ssatrust.org.uk>
> Tel: +44 20 7802 2306
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> MSN: a.c.parkin@hotmail.co.uk
> --------------------------------------------
> ________________________________________
> From: secondary-admin@talk.naace.org [secondary-admin@talk.naace.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Tolley [rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk]
> Sent: 31 December 2009 12:41
> To: advisory@talk.naace.org; secondary@talk.naace.org
> Subject: [Secondary] FW: [Advisory] Online Reporting in Primary Schools
>
> Hi, Fergus,
>
> I agree with Tony up to a point, but 'reports' are always about past
> experience and possibly previous teaching and learning styles. I did a
> quick phone-round of some of the suppliers but unfortunately they were al=
l
> on holiday.
>
> I have my own ideas on the benefits of on-line reporting and will
> 'interrogate' leading known suppliers as to how they see on-line reportin=
g
> moving in the near future. - I will report back shortly - probably next
> week.
>
> Meanwhile, I would suggest that there are three different aspects to this
> issue:
>
> 1. The appropriate access to real-time reporting of progress through
> activities completed using some form of assessment software like
> 'SmartAssess';
> 2. The reporting written by teachers, that can be reasonably up-to-date,
> such as provided by SERCO/CMIS/Facility;
> 3. The formative and possibly informal reporting available through a goo=
d
> e-Portfolio system.
>
> I'm sure that there are several other competitive products - but firstly =
it
> will depend on your present VLE provider.
>
> PS: BETT will be a good source of advice even if coloured by some degree
> of
> 'sales pitch'.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, MBILD
> ICT Education Consultant
> Maximise ICT Ltd
> P: http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/
> B: http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/
> W: http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm
> Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009'
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org=
]
> On Behalf Of Fergus Reynolds
> Sent: 31 December 2009 09:18
> To: advisory@talk.naace.org
> Subject: [Advisory] Online Reporting in Primary Schools
>
> Colleagues,
>
> Does anybody have any advice, hints or tips on developing online
> reporting in Primary schools? I am interested in examples of good
> practice and any suggestions colleagues may have to help avoid
> pitfalls in getting going. I am also interested in any schools that
> colleagues could recommend as examples of good practice in this area -
> especially in the North West of England. Any help, comments, etc
> appreciated.
> I am happy to receive responses offline if colleagues prefer that. I
> would be happy to collate responses if anyone would be interested in
> receiving that. Thanks in anticipation.
>
> Best wishes for a Happy new Year
>
> Fergus Reynolds
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Hi everyone<br><br>I suspect that many secondary schools may not fully appr=
eciate the possibilities and potential pitfalls associated with providing &=
#39;online reporting'. I believe that we have a role to play here in id=
entifying aspirational requirements that schools can have when faced with t=
he offerings of most suppliers who, I suspect, will be providing the basic =
minimum to 'cover' their perception of online reporting. Whilst the=
re has been consultation, most suppliers will also be bound by their own te=
chnical limitations of their products.<br>
<br>Whilst Tony mentions below the information required to be available to =
parents accessing the information online, there are some important aspects =
which also need to be included and some will be a challenge to some supplie=
rs. On the face of it, the flow of information is only required to flow in =
one direction - in a sense, it is the same information currently provided b=
y schools in printed format. I would like to see the access extended to inc=
lude a return flow from parent to teacher, mentor, tutor, etc - an almost s=
ocial network supporting the student's learning - a learning network.<b=
r>
<br>Reporting online a student's attendance and behaviour is relatively=
straightforward provided the appropriate internal processes and digital sy=
stems are in place. It's possible that schools will be challenged in th=
ose areas and will need support.<br>
<br>Whilst 'attainment' is important, it is the indication of '=
progress' in an understandable format which is vital to the online conv=
ersation or any conversation concerning learning - an online conversation o=
ffers more opportunities for parental engagement than the very occasional p=
arents evening. This is coupled with learning plans, statement and support =
of special needs, both of which can be negotiated and reviewed online as th=
e student progresses.<br>
<br>I'd like to think that 'real-time' reporting is made up of =
all those formative assessments and feedback that can be available online a=
s part of the student's ePortfolio or from within an appropriate learni=
ng platform.<br>
<br>Happy New Year and best wishes,<br><br>Jeremy Meades<br>Director of ICT=
Strategy & e-Learning<br>SchoolsICT Limited<br><br>e: <a href=3D"mailt=
o:jeremy.meades@schoolsict.net">jeremy.meades@schoolsict.net</a><br>w: <a h=
ref=3D"http://schoolsict.net">http://schoolsict.net</a><br>
<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2009/12/31 Tony Parkin <span dir=3D"=
ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:Tony.Parkin@ssatrust.org.uk">Tony.Parkin@ssatrus=
t.org.uk</a>></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"borde=
r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-le=
ft: 1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">Fergus<br>
<br>
... and =A0it may be worth a reminder to those schools exploring this journ=
ey of the 'expectations' in this area, as currently delineated on t=
he Becta website.....?<br>
Ray might even like to ask suppliers in his calls how their offerings measu=
re up against these requirements?<br>
<br>
"What is online reporting?<br>
<br>
Online reporting involves using ICT to enable parents to receive and access=
information about their children=92s work, progress, attendance and behavi=
our when and where they want, using secure, online access.<br>
<br>
What do I have to do and when?<br>
<br>
Secondary schools are expected to make the following information available =
to parents through secure online access by September 2010:<br>
=A0 =A0* Attendance and behaviour (both positive and challenging)<br>
=A0 =A0* Progress and attainment<br>
=A0 =A0* Special needs<br>
All primary schools are expected to achieve this by September 2012."<b=
r>
<br>
It is worth noting that not all these aspects are addressed in some of the =
solutions being promoted to schools as ideal ways of meeting these aspirati=
ons.<br>
<br>
Also perhaps that 'real-time reporting', though clearly invaluable =
and undoubtedly welcomed by parents, is NOT part of the specification?<br>
<br>
Tony<br>
--------------------------------------------<br>
</div><div class=3D"im">Tony Parkin<br>
Head of ICT Development<br>
Specialist Schools & Academies Trust<br>
17th Floor, Millbank Tower<br>
21-24 Millbank<br>
London SW1P 4QP<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:Email%3Atony.parkin@ssatrust.org.uk">Email:tony.parkin@ss=
atrust.org.uk</a><br>
Tel: +44 20 7802 2306<br>
Mob:+44 07739 436073<br>
Skype: parkintony<br>
MSN: <a href=3D"mailto:a.c.parkin@hotmail.co.uk">a.c.parkin@hotmail.co.uk</=
a><br>
</div>--------------------------------------------<br>
________________________________________<br>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:secondary-admin@talk.naace.org">secondary-admin@tal=
k.naace.org</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:secondary-admin@talk.naace.org">secondar=
y-admin@talk.naace.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ray Tolley [<a href=3D"mailto:rjt@=
maximise-ict.co.uk">rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk</a>]<br>
<div class=3D"im">Sent: 31 December 2009 12:41<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:advisory@talk.naace.org">advisory@talk.naace.org</a>;=
<a href=3D"mailto:secondary@talk.naace.org">secondary@talk.naace.org</a><b=
r>
</div>Subject: [Secondary] FW: [Advisory] Online Reporting in Primary Schoo=
ls<br>
<div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
Hi, Fergus,<br>
<br>
I agree with Tony up to a point, but 'reports' are always about pas=
t<br>
experience and possibly previous teaching and learning styles. =A0I did a<b=
r>
quick phone-round of some of the suppliers but unfortunately they were all<=
br>
on holiday.<br>
<br>
I have my own ideas on the benefits of on-line reporting and will<br>
'interrogate' leading known suppliers as to how they see on-line re=
porting<br>
moving in the near future. - I will report back shortly - probably next<br>
week.<br>
<br>
Meanwhile, I would suggest that there are three different aspects to this<b=
r>
issue:<br>
<br>
1. =A0The appropriate access to real-time reporting of progress through<br>
activities completed using some form of assessment software like<br>
'SmartAssess';<br>
2. =A0The reporting written by teachers, that can be reasonably up-to-date,=
<br>
such as provided by SERCO/CMIS/Facility;<br>
3. =A0The formative and possibly informal reporting available through a goo=
d<br>
e-Portfolio system.<br>
<br>
I'm sure that there are several other competitive products - but firstl=
y it<br>
will depend on your present VLE provider.<br>
<br>
PS: =A0BETT will be a good source of advice even if coloured by some degree=
of<br>
'sales pitch'.<br>
<br>
Best Wishes,<br>
<br>
Ray Tolley =A0FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, MBILD<br>
ICT Education Consultant<br>
Maximise ICT Ltd<br>
P: =A0<a href=3D"http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/</a><br>
B: =A0<a href=3D"http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/</a><br>
W: =A0<a href=3D"http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm</a><br>
Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009'<br>
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From: <a href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">advisory-admin@talk.=
naace.org</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">advi=
sory-admin@talk.naace.org</a>]<br>
On Behalf Of Fergus Reynolds<br>
Sent: 31 December 2009 09:18<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:advisory@talk.naace.org">advisory@talk.naace.org</a><=
br>
Subject: [Advisory] Online Reporting in Primary Schools<br>
<br>
Colleagues,<br>
<br>
Does anybody have any advice, hints or tips on developing online<br>
reporting in Primary schools? I am interested in examples of good<br>
practice and any suggestions colleagues may have to help avoid<br>
pitfalls in getting going. I am also interested in any schools that<br>
colleagues could recommend as examples of good practice in this area -<br>
especially in the North West of England. Any help, comments, etc<br>
appreciated.<br>
I am happy to receive responses offline if colleagues prefer that. I<br>
would be happy to collate responses if anyone would be interested in<br>
receiving that. =A0Thanks in anticipation.<br>
<br>
Best wishes for a Happy new Year<br>
<br>
Fergus Reynolds<br>
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