[Advisory] Re: [Secondary] I need my teachers to learn

Leon Cych dfee@btinternet.com
Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:41:04 +0000 (GMT)


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I think we're just going to retread old ground here endlessly about blockin=
g and upskilling. Does anyone have some concrete, practical, scoped solutio=
ns now to all this? Because, if not, then Naace should step in and work out=
 some perhaps without endless circular arguments.

Can anyone point to specific strategies "classroom up" and "RBC down" to co=
pe with lack of access as only one part of the jigsaw?=20

I think the problem only comes into high relief when someone notices it in =
an institution when someone needs to use certain resources - when I first s=
tarted writing resources for the net 15 years ago it was obvious then and i=
t still seems to have got no better in many cases.=20

But it's not really a case of "access" per se or digital natives or old vs =
young because I am beginning to think that really is the wrong end of the t=
elescope - what is needed is a co-ordinated questioning of the infrastructu=
re in the context of step change. Over the next few months I am going to be=
 asking these questions on video with people involved in the process up and=
 down the country - academics, teachers, commercial providers, quangos, pun=
dits, pupils, parents, policy advisors/ makers and other communities and I =
think it's time to make the debate far wider in scope.

So I am launching this :

http://www.l4l.co.uk/drupal/

Anyone who is interested in a brief video interview just sign up and I can =
start to get footage and flesh out how to effect change over and beyond jus=
t LAs or schools but a general mindset about what we want education for. Ov=
er the next few years it might be a much tougher time for education in gene=
ral in this country and around the world - if we retreat into solutions tha=
t mean we withdraw from engaging with social media technologies or cut back=
 on resources or not implement them in the first place then perhaps we shou=
ld regard why this is the case and what people want out of an education sys=
tem and how that will evolve.

I know that there are excellent projects like Futurelab's:

http://www.beyondcurrenthorizons.org.uk/scenarios

but in the nonce I am interested in garnering people's opinions about where=
 we are now and what changes they want.

So sign up on the Drupal site and there will be more to come in the followi=
ng months - it's a year long project and intended to take a digital litmus =
to the state of education in this country, why it needs to change and some =
of the changes that might be happening.

I guess I am lucky in that I get to enter into several different arenas whe=
re a lot of interesting activity is going on. My personal view it is to do =
with focusing on learning communites and how they are evolving using social=
 media, what, for want of a better phrase, "Digital Literacy" is and how th=
at will impact on our identity and the way we function as citizens nd how w=
e learn in the 21st Century.

The fact that we can't get access in so and so a place will be increasingly=
 irrelevant and as is increasingly shown in all sorts of institution, breed=
s irrelevancy of practice brought on by lack of resourcing (human or otheri=
wse) thus reducing practice to stale outmoded and quite boring ways of doin=
g things which serves no-one well- what I think is lacking in many cases is=
 good channels of info, involvement of community and vision for the communi=
ty as a whole but who knows - so I will be talking to people involved in se=
veral arenas and wanting answers or frameworks - I'd like to screen the res=
ults in the UK and start a debate around it - but I'll start small.=20

Cheers,

Leon Cych

--- On Fri, 8/1/10, Jeff Wickham <onside@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

From: Jeff Wickham <onside@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] I need my teachers to learn
To: "Ray Tolley" <rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk>, advisory@talk.naace.org, seconda=
ry@talk.naace.org
Date: Friday, 8 January, 2010, 13:23

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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">I think we're just going to retread old groun=
d here endlessly about blocking and upskilling. Does anyone have some concr=
ete, practical, scoped solutions now to all this? Because, if not, then Naa=
ce should step in and work out some perhaps without endless circular argume=
nts.<br><br>Can anyone point to specific strategies "classroom up" and "RBC=
 down" to cope with lack of access as only one part of the jigsaw? <br><br>=
I think the problem only comes into high relief when someone notices it in =
an institution when someone needs to use certain resources - when I first s=
tarted writing resources for the net 15 years ago it was obvious then and i=
t still seems to have got no better in many cases. <br><br>But it's not rea=
lly a case of "access" per se or digital natives or old vs young because I =
am beginning to think that really is the wrong end of the telescope - what =
is
 needed is a co-ordinated questioning of the infrastructure in the context =
of step change. Over the next few months I am going to be asking these ques=
tions on video with people involved in the process up and down the country =
- academics, teachers, commercial providers, quangos, pundits, pupils, pare=
nts, policy advisors/ makers and other communities and I think it's time to=
 make the debate far wider in scope.<br><br>So I am launching this :<br><br=
>http://www.l4l.co.uk/drupal/<br><br>Anyone who is interested in a brief vi=
deo interview just sign up and I can start to get footage and flesh out how=
 to effect change over and beyond just LAs or schools but a general mindset=
 about what we want education for. Over the next few years it might be a mu=
ch tougher time for education in general in this country and around the wor=
ld - if we retreat into solutions that mean we withdraw from engaging with =
social media technologies or cut back on resources or not implement
 them in the first place then perhaps we should regard why this is the case=
 and what people want out of an education system and how that will evolve.<=
br><br>I know that there are excellent projects like Futurelab's:<br><br>ht=
tp://www.beyondcurrenthorizons.org.uk/scenarios<br><br>but in the nonce I a=
m interested in garnering people's opinions about where we are now and what=
 changes they want.<br><br>So sign up on the Drupal site and there will be =
more to come in the following months - it's a year long project and intende=
d to take a digital litmus to the state of education in this country, why i=
t needs to change and some of the changes that might be happening.<br><br>I=
 guess I am lucky in that I get to enter into several different arenas wher=
e a lot of interesting activity is going on. My personal view it is to do w=
ith focusing on learning communites and how they are evolving using social =
media, what, for want of a better phrase, "Digital Literacy" is and
 how that will impact on our identity and the way we function as citizens n=
d how we learn in the 21st Century.<br><br>The fact that we can't get acces=
s in so and so a place will be increasingly irrelevant and as is increasing=
ly shown in all sorts of institution, breeds irrelevancy of practice brough=
t on by lack of resourcing (human or otheriwse) thus reducing practice to s=
tale outmoded and quite boring ways of doing things which serves no-one wel=
l- what I think is lacking in many cases is good channels of info, involvem=
ent of community and vision for the community as a whole but who knows - so=
 I will be talking to people involved in several arenas and wanting answers=
 or frameworks - I'd like to screen the results in the UK and start a debat=
e around it - but I'll start small. <br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Leon Cych<br><br=
>--- On <b>Fri, 8/1/10, Jeff Wickham <i>&lt;onside@blueyonder.co.uk&gt;</i>=
</b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16,
 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Jeff Wickham &lt;ons=
ide@blueyonder.co.uk&gt;<br>Subject: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] I need my t=
eachers to learn<br>To: "Ray Tolley" &lt;rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk&gt;, adviso=
ry@talk.naace.org, secondary@talk.naace.org<br>Date: Friday, 8 January, 201=
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al"></font>&nbsp;</div>=0A<div>Jeff Wickham&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>Lotus Laser Edu=
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