[Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and Education
Gary Clawson
gary.clawson@nwlg.org
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The National Digital Resource Bank ( www.ndrb.org.uk ) which was announced
at last year's NAACE Conference by Jim Knight, on the face of it looked like
a way to simply populate learning platforms with full curriculum coverage at
an average cost of around £25 per school. The reality was that it introduced
the concept of 'Open Content'. Content that was IP checked and could be used
under a creative commons licence by any educationalist or learner in
perpetuity for the purposes of learning. Not poor quality content but highly
interactive, publicly funded, curriculum specific content. This is exactly
what UK education requires if using ICT in learning is to break away from
the antiquated annual and restrictive commercial licences that characterise
the vast majority of UK digital resource provision. How can you embed
digital resources into learning if you don't know whether the head can
afford the licences next year?
Once we move away from this restrictive commercial model we can start to
have a community of teachers capable of deriving and sharing content from a
strong base of Creative Commons content rather than a weak base of
inappropriately licenced commercial content. There won't be any technical
barriers as the companies that fail to adopt Open Standards simply won't
exist any more and the successful ones will be the ones that have moved into
content creation tools and much improved learning platforms.
Kind Regards
Gary Clawson
Chief Executive
North West Learning Grid
eGovernment National Awards 2006 Winner
eGovernment National Awards 2009 Highly Commended
BETT Awards 2010 Finalist
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From: secondary-admin@talk.naace.org
[mailto:secondary-admin@talk.naace.org]On Behalf Of Roger Broadie
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 8:35 AM
To: Crispin Weston
Cc: 'secondary'; 'Advisory talk'
Subject: Re: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and
Education
Hi Crispin,
Thanks for supporting the view that the educational exceptions concept is
broken.
And I am afraid the idea that there can be a technical boundary also
cannot work. Access to educational content is now through a browser, even
for software that is used through thin client or secure gateway
technologies, with the software actually running on machines in the school.
And if the user can see something on their screen, they can capture it, even
if only as a screen-grab or by taking a picture of it on their phone.
Sure it is possible to technically limit software and content to running
on specific machines, but that does not fully solve the copyright problem.
It only gives control over quality of the content.
The only copyright control which is workable is legal control through
Ts&Cs, with the Ts&Cs being simple enough for all users to grasp easily.
There can be a sort of technical boundary through closed
networks/intranets that require logon, but even this cannot be precisely
defined by the copyright holder. Some years ago in a 3Com meeting, a network
manager from a university who was attending explained that they had 60
different CATEGORIES of user on the network, with overlaps all over the
place, some being full 'members' of the institution, others being transient
users or being some kind of associate user, making it absolutely impossible
to precisely define numbers of users. The same is true for schools with
parents and extended family needing some access, as well as partner schools,
other agencies, maybe community businesses and so on.
Roger.
On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:39, Crispin Weston wrote:
Hi Roger,
I agree with all you say – the concept of educational exceptions is
essentially broken.
I would only add two points (uncontentious ones, I hope):
1) the simple classification offered by Creative Commons is a real
help – maybe we need some similarly iconic representation of “for
educational use”;
2) it would be useful to have some kind of technical boundary to that
educational use – this would be feasible for more complex interactive (and
probably high-value) content, though not for simple assets which, as you
say, cannot be kept inside any sort of a useful boundary.
Crispin.
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From: Roger Broadie [mailto:Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk]
Sent: 18 February 2010 17:18
To: Crispin Weston
Cc: 'secondary'; 'Advisory talk'
Subject: Re: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and
Education
Crispin,
Apologies for taking some time to get to replying to your email.
Education dictating copyright terms is certainly NOT code for 'ignore
copyright'. Exactly the opposite in fact, it means assuming everything is
copyright and that it is necessary to positively determine what the Terms
and Conditions (Ts&Cs) for usage are.
The point I am making is that the whole concept of 'educational
exceptions' is broken and cannot be mended. Even if we engaged fully in
debate of the Gower recommendations and the consultation it would not be
possible to agree limits on where things could be accessed, by who, or what
materials are included or not included. The net result would be that any
school relying on educational exceptions to justify how content is being
used digitally by their community will end up hopelessly confused. It's just
unworkable. We could engage with this until the end of eternity and still
get no result.
A little story - a big museum set up a nice project, whereby kids could
borrow mobile phones and as they went round the museum could take pictures
of things they found particularly interesting and could then upload these
into online galleries being run by the museum, that the kids could then
access when back in school. But the project ran into a roadblock when they
realised that they had some things in the museum that were on loan and not
owned by themselves, and the terms of the loan did not permit photography of
the object, let alone the making and copying of digital copies.
At some point in the near future kids in schools are going to be
permitted to use their phones to capture images - how many company meetings
have you been in where taking pictures of the whiteboard at the end of a
discussion is just normal practice. Even the builder putting in our loft
conversion is now taking pictures of things to show us. So if they are using
some content in class and need to be able to look at it again at home, they
will copy it. Moral for the school - don't have any content in use that
cannot be used in this way and make sure the kids also know the Ts&Cs
(probably 'can be used by you and on the school platform, can't be put on
the Internet or copied to others).
I believe we should be saying to this consultation:
- Educational exceptions to copyright will no longer work for schools,
because they cannot be limited in space or to what materials are digitised,
given that we are way past the point when digitising devices and spread of
content around networks and the Internet can be controlled by a responsible
organisation, and the people it is necessary to engage in collaborative
learning cannot be limited to single defined institutions and people who are
bone-fide members of those institutions.
- Schools should therefore rely not on exceptions, but on positive
determination of the copyright terms and conditions that apply to the
content they wish to use.
- For education and learning in the digital age, there is a clear need
for as much content as possible to be covered by creative commons Ts&Cs, so
that it can be used as widely as possible, collaboratively, and re-purposed
to aid learning. The amount of this content will continue to grow
exponentially, worldwide, as more and more educators and learners become
content creators.
- Copyright holders will then have to decide for themselves what they
have that has value beyond the creative commons content available, and
whether they are going to adopt copyright Ts&Cs that help educators to use
their content, both with regard to how the content can be used and to the
complexity for the organisation in understanding and managing the copyright
Ts&Cs. (I have seen museum Ts&Cs that run to 12 pages!) To help this process
some simple, single page exemplar Ts&Cs for education purchasers should be
produced. The whole issue of digital rights management would also come in
here - if content owners demand DRM and that makes their content unusable by
schools and their communities, then so be it.
- Similarly, organisations such as the Copyright Licensing Authority
will have to decide if they can make a business by coordinating the
copyright Ts&Cs of a range of defined content providers, in a way that will
stimulate educational use and hence a financial return to the content
owners, that the owners could not themselves achieve by selling to schools
directly.
Then as clarity appears as to what content schools can and cannot afford
to use, without reliance on 'educational exceptions', there will be a clear
message for government that if some content is critical for education and is
not being made available for educators and learners to use, in
learning-effective, manageable and affordable ways, then national action
will need to be taken to make such content available.
Roger.
On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:04, Crispin Weston wrote:
Roger,
I agree with you on the underlying problem – but I am not so sure that I
agree with your view of the solution.
The reason why Gower focuses on interactive whiteboards (from our point
of view, maybe somewhat perversely) is that Gower is assuming that something
displayed on an IWB is not then going out of the room – it is a plenary
display device with a clear boundary to the group of people who are
accessing it. This replicates the conditions which applied to the display of
video in classrooms and (on the basis of low and rapidly deteriorating
quality) to the distribution of photocopied hand-outs.
I do not agree with you that the supplier should now dictate copyright
terms (this is really code for “ignore copyright”). The much touted view
that the internet was going to end intellectual property is untrue, for
reasons: (a) – technically, because publishers are increasingly putting in
place DRM protection, (b) because the law is still the law and from time to
time very significant damages are still awarded against file sharers, and
(c) – in principle, because undermining IP would be a disaster which would
bring innovation to a screaming halt.
That is not to say that people, using e.g. creative commons, may elect
to give up their IP if they are able to earn their living some other way
(e.g. by occupying a salaried position or by offering advertising or support
services) – and this might be a very appropriate model for UGC. But the vast
majority of businesses still need to charge for the services they provide in
one way or another – and we need the involvement of industry if we are going
to get access to genuinely innovative products and content.
The other issue with the educational exceptions is the definition of the
material which is affected – something like “literary, dramatic or musical
works” i.e. educational content is not included. If it were, then all
educational publishers would be put out of business overnight. In other
words, the educational exceptions only affect material where education is a
tangential and unimportant source of income to the rights holder.
In this respect, we have to question the distinction (which in this
context becomes very important) between educational and non-educational
content. We are no longer going to distribute a photocopy of Macbeth
(literary, not educational) and then have a chat about it (educational but
not replicable) – we are going to suck in a digital version of Macbeth,
probably combined with some videos of the latest RSC production
(commercial/dramatic) and comments from other teachers (UGC), into an
educational software programme (commercial educational). The boundaries
starts to become very complex.
So I have two overall comments on Gower:
1) educational exceptions can be applied fairly easily to what I would
call “plenary displays” (IWBs and visualisers).
2) I am less sure about “distance learning”, which is really a synonym
for the internet. Even if the VLE is secure, you cannot then stop the
material being copied by students into non-secure environments. From hereon
in, educational exceptions are insufficient without a technical component.
We must look to DRM solutions which place a reliable “wall” around
educational use and can seamlessly handle the authorisation of
non-educational content within complex orchestrations of different types of
content.
Crispin.
PS. you need to send an email to Leon, who will give you access to the
document.
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[mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] On Behalf Of Roger Broadie
Sent: 11 February 2010 09:00
To: theo kuechel
Cc: beyond@talk.naace.org; primary@talk.naace.org; secondary; Advisory
talk
Subject: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and
Education
Theo,
First of all, I cannot access Gower's recommendations for educational
exceptions, I can't get at it through my usual Google docs logon. Please
advise.
However, I will be extremely surprised if ANY educational exceptions
will deal with the situation we now find ourselves in. This is because the
concept of 'educational use' was single person use for their own study,
whereas education use now largely means copying and re-purposing for access
by others who will collaboratively reflect upon what the learner has done
and provide afl feedback. There is no substantive difference between this
and publishing.
It is also almost impossible to limit use to 'use within an educational
institution' because that must now mean use online by the community of
people involved with promoting learning in the institution, and where does
that stop? Does it include Granny who lives in New Zealand and the partner
school in Mexico?
The only answer is to turn the copyright legislation on its head and to
state very clearly that material that is not provided with appropriate
copyright for use in education, will be completely ignored by educators and
learners. It is time for the users to set copyright terms, not the
suppliers.
The terms and conditions that you come across in many web resources are
completely unworkable for schools and learners. Try looking at a few. There
is no way this can be resolved from the supplier end, it will have to be
resolved from the user end. For instance, LT Scotland DICTATE what the
copyright terms and conditions will be for things they licence nationally.
The whole education community should do similarly.
There are essentially only 3 copyright terms that matter:
- you can look at it but not do anything else with it.
- you can copy and re-purpose it within the defined community of a an
educational institution (but the community of the institution can only be
defined by the institution itself)
- it is creative commons and you can copy and re-purpose it to your
heart's content provided source is acknowledged.
Roger.
On 10 Feb 2010, at 11:15, theo kuechel wrote:
Paul, Colleagues;
This is very timely, urgent and probably of greater significance than
the many technologies we often discuss, (including iPads, Interactive
whiteboards, Web 2.0 applications or VLEs); the outcomes of this
consultation are likely to determine how we are allowed to use our digital
tools, access digital content and by default, determine the opportunities we
afford our learners. These outcomes will shape the future culture of
learning for the foreseeable future and permeate all educational uses of ICT
including distance learning, mobile technologies, student work in digital
format and the sharing and development of teacher created resources.
Having read Marshall's synopsis and then the re-read the documents it
appears there is some urgent work to be done. Leon Cych has created a copy
of Gower's recommendations for educational exceptions here, to which we can
add comments /annotations. Please email Leon for access.
It think is important we have that debate and I personally look forward
to reading the Nacce community views, and hopefully. as you suggest, we can
start to develop a Naace response. I am surprised there is no Naace working
group on this?
Best
Theo
On 5 February 2010 21:38, Paul Springford <paul.springford@naace.org>
wrote:
Colleagues
Many of you will already have read in the latest Naace newsletter
Marshal Mateer's article about an important consultation with implications
for UK schools. Did you already know about the Intellectual Property Office
(IPO), "the official government body responsible for granting Intellectual
Property (IP) rights in the United Kingdom"? Possibly not. It's their
consultation and it deals in part with copyright in education in a digital
age.
We firmly expect that members will wish to discuss the implications for
our schools and colleges here on Naacetalk. We are looking for a volunteer
to coordinate the discussion and use it as the basis of a Naace response to
the IPO. Any offers please to paul.springford@naace.co.uk
--
Theo Kuechel
Learning Technology Research
theo.kuechel@gmail.com
T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk
Roger Broadie,
Director,
Broadie Associates
http://www.BroadieAssociates.co.uk
Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk
99 High Street, Chatteris,
Cambs, PE16 6NP, UK.
tel: +44 1 354 695583
mobile: +44 7710 328672
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I would =
only add=20
two points (uncontentious ones, I =
hope):<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
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face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">1) the =
simple=20
classification offered by Creative Commons is a real help =96 maybe =
we need=20
some similarly iconic representation of =93for educational=20
use=94;<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">2) it =
would be=20
useful to have some kind of technical boundary to that educational =
use =96=20
this would be feasible for more complex interactive (and probably=20
high-value) content, though not for simple assets which, as you say, =
cannot=20
be kept inside any sort of a useful =
boundary.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">Crispin.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Roger Broadie [<A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
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href=3D"mailto:Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk">mailto:Roger@BroadieAssocia=
tes.co.uk</A>]<SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>18 February 2010 =
17:18<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Crispin =
Weston<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>'secondary'; 'Advisory=20
talk'<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [Advisory] Re: =
[Secondary]<SPAN=20
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w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE =
w:st=3D"on">UK</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN=20
class=3DApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Consultation on Copyright =
and=20
Education</SPAN></FONT><SPAN =
lang=3DEN-US><O:P></O:P></SPAN></DIV></DIV>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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12pt">Crispin,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Apologies for=20
taking some time to get to replying to your=20
email.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Education=20
dictating copyright terms is certainly NOT code for 'ignore =
copyright'.=20
Exactly the opposite in fact, it means assuming everything is =
copyright and=20
that it is necessary to positively determine what the Terms and =
Conditions=20
(Ts&Cs) for usage are.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">The point I am=20
making is that the whole concept of 'educational exceptions' is =
broken and=20
cannot be mended. Even if we engaged fully in debate of the Gower=20
recommendations and the consultation it would not be possible to =
agree=20
limits on where things could be accessed, by who, or what materials =
are=20
included or not included. The net result would be that any school =
relying on=20
educational exceptions to justify how content is being used =
digitally by=20
their community will end up hopelessly confused. It's just =
unworkable. We=20
could engage with this until the end of eternity and still get no=20
result.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">A =
little story -=20
a big museum set up a nice project, whereby kids could borrow mobile =
phones=20
and as they went round the museum could take pictures of things they =
found=20
particularly interesting and could then upload these into online =
galleries=20
being run by the museum, that the kids could then access when back =
in=20
school. But the project ran into a roadblock when they realised that =
they=20
had some things in the museum that were on loan and not owned =
by=20
themselves, and the terms of the loan did not permit photography of =
the=20
object, let alone the making and copying of digital=20
copies.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At =
some point in=20
the near future kids in schools are going to be permitted to use =
their=20
phones to capture images - how many company meetings have you been =
in where=20
taking pictures of the whiteboard at the end of a discussion is just =
normal=20
practice. Even the builder putting in our loft conversion is now =
taking=20
pictures of things to show us. So if they are using some content in =
class=20
and need to be able to look at it again at home, they will copy it. =
Moral=20
for the school - don't have any content in use that cannot be used =
in this=20
way and make sure the kids also know the Ts&Cs (probably 'can be =
used by=20
you and on the school platform, can't be put on the Internet or =
copied to=20
others).<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I =
believe we=20
should be saying to this =
consultation:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- =
Educational=20
exceptions to copyright will no longer work for schools, because =
they cannot=20
be limited in space or to what materials are digitised, given that =
we are=20
way past the point when digitising devices and spread of content =
around=20
networks and the Internet can be controlled by a responsible =
organisation,=20
and the people it is necessary to engage in collaborative learning =
cannot be=20
limited to single defined institutions and people who are bone-fide =
members=20
of those institutions.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- =
Schools should=20
therefore rely not on exceptions, but on positive determination of =
the=20
copyright terms and conditions that apply to the content they wish =
to=20
use.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- =
For education=20
and learning in the digital age, there is a clear need for as much =
content=20
as possible to be covered by creative commons Ts&Cs, so that it =
can be=20
used as widely as possible, collaboratively, and re-purposed to aid=20
learning. The amount of this content will continue to grow =
exponentially,=20
worldwide, as more and more educators and learners become content=20
creators.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- =
Copyright=20
holders will then have to decide for themselves what they have that =
has=20
value beyond the creative commons content available, and whether =
they are=20
going to adopt copyright Ts&Cs that help educators to use their =
content,=20
both with regard to how the content can be used and to the =
complexity for=20
the organisation in understanding and managing the copyright =
Ts&Cs. (I=20
have seen museum Ts&Cs that run to 12 pages!) To help this =
process some=20
simple, single page exemplar Ts&Cs for education purchasers =
should be=20
produced. The whole issue of digital rights management would also =
come in=20
here - if content owners demand DRM and that makes their content =
unusable by=20
schools and their communities, then so be=20
it.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">- =
Similarly,=20
organisations such as the Copyright Licensing Authority will have to =
decide=20
if they can make a business by coordinating the copyright Ts&Cs =
of=20
a range of defined content providers, in a way that will stimulate=20
educational use and hence a financial return to the content owners, =
that the=20
owners could not themselves achieve by selling to schools=20
directly.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Then as clarity=20
appears as to what content schools can and cannot afford to use, =
without=20
reliance on 'educational exceptions', there will be a clear message =
for=20
government that if some content is critical for education and is not =
being=20
made available for educators and learners to use, in =
learning-effective,=20
manageable and affordable ways, then national action will need to be =
taken=20
to make such content available.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
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New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt">Roger.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On =
11 Feb 2010,=20
at 10:04, Crispin Weston wrote:<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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12pt"><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">Roger,<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I agree =
with you=20
on the underlying problem =96 but I am not so sure that I agree with =
your view=20
of the solution.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN =
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The =
reason why=20
Gower focuses on interactive whiteboards (from our point of view, =
maybe=20
somewhat perversely) is that Gower is assuming that something =
displayed on=20
an IWB is not then going out of the room =96 it is a plenary display =
device=20
with a clear boundary to the group of people who are accessing it. =
This=20
replicates the conditions which applied to the display of video in=20
classrooms and (on the basis of low and rapidly deteriorating =
quality) to=20
the distribution of photocopied =
hand-outs.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">I do =
not agree=20
with you that the supplier should now dictate copyright terms (this =
is=20
really code for =93ignore copyright=94). The much touted view that =
the internet=20
was going to end intellectual property is untrue, for reasons: (a) =
=96=20
technically, because publishers are increasingly putting in place =
DRM=20
protection, (b) because the law is still the law and from time to =
time very=20
significant damages are still awarded against file sharers, and (c) =
=96 in=20
principle, because undermining IP would be a disaster which would =
bring=20
innovation to a screaming halt.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">That is =
not to=20
say that people, using e.g. creative commons, may elect to give up =
their IP=20
if they are able to earn their living some other way (e.g. by =
occupying a=20
salaried position or by offering advertising or support services) =
=96 and this=20
might be a very appropriate model for UGC. But the vast majority of=20
businesses still need to charge for the services they provide in one =
way or=20
another =96 and we need the involvement of industry if we are going =
to get=20
access to genuinely innovative products and=20
content.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">The =
other issue=20
with the educational exceptions is the definition of the material =
which is=20
affected =96 something like =93literary, dramatic or musical =
works=94 i.e.=20
educational content is not included. If it were, then all =
educational=20
publishers would be put out of business overnight. In other words, =
the=20
educational exceptions only affect material where education is a =
tangential=20
and unimportant source of income to the rights=20
holder.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">In this =
respect,=20
we have to question the distinction (which in this context becomes =
very=20
important) between educational and non-educational content. We are =
no longer=20
going to distribute a photocopy of Macbeth (literary, not =
educational) and=20
then have a chat about it (educational but not replicable) =96 we =
are going to=20
suck in a digital version of Macbeth, probably combined with some =
videos of=20
the latest RSC production (commercial/dramatic) and comments from =
other=20
teachers (UGC), into an educational software programme (commercial=20
educational). The boundaries starts to become very=20
complex.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">So I =
have two=20
overall comments on Gower:<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">1) =
educational=20
exceptions can be applied fairly easily to what I would call =
=93plenary=20
displays=94 (IWBs and visualisers).<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">2) I am =
less sure=20
about =93distance learning=94, which is really a synonym for the =
internet. Even=20
if the VLE is secure, you cannot then stop the material being copied =
by=20
students into non-secure environments. From hereon in, educational=20
exceptions are insufficient without a technical component. We must =
look to=20
DRM solutions which place a reliable =93wall=94 around educational =
use and can=20
seamlessly handle the authorisation of non-educational content =
within=20
complex orchestrations of different types of=20
content.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana">Crispin.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">PS. you =
need to=20
send an email to Leon, who will give you access to the=20
document.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
Verdana"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
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face=3DVerdana color=3Dblue size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
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color=3Dblack><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
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face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; =
FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space><FONT face=3DTahoma color=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> <ST1:PERSONNAME=20
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PERSONNAME></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
=
href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">advisory-admin@talk.naace.o=
rg</A><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:<ST1:PERSONNAME=20
u2:st=3D"on"><A style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
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href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">advisory-admin@talk.naace.o=
rg</A></ST1:PERSONNAME>]<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN></B>Roger=20
Broadie<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Sent:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>11 February 2010 =
09:00<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>theo kuechel<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
=
href=3D"mailto:beyond@talk.naace.org">beyond@talk.naace.org</A>;<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
href=3D"mailto:primary@talk.naace.org">primary@talk.naace.org</A>; =
secondary;=20
Advisory talk<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">Subject:</SPAN></B><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>[Advisory] Re: =
[Secondary]<SPAN=20
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u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE =
w:st=3D"on">UK</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>Consultation on Copyright =
and=20
Education</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
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face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black">Theo,<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">First of all, I cannot =
access Gower's=20
recommendations for educational exceptions, I can't get at it =
through my=20
usual Google docs logon. Please=20
advise.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">However, I will be extremely =
surprised=20
if ANY educational exceptions will deal with the situation we now =
find=20
ourselves in. This is because the concept of 'educational use' was =
single=20
person use for their own study, whereas education use now largely =
means=20
copying and re-purposing for access by others who will =
collaboratively=20
reflect upon what the learner has done and provide afl feedback. =
There is no=20
substantive difference between this and=20
publishing.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">It is also almost impossible =
to limit=20
use to 'use within an educational institution' because that must now =
mean=20
use online by the community of people involved with promoting =
learning in=20
the institution, and where does that stop? Does it include Granny =
who lives=20
in<SPAN class=3Dapple-converted-space> <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION=20
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
w:st=3D"on">New=20
Zealand</ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>and the partner school =
in<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
u2:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
=
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
=
w:st=3D"on">Mexico</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>?<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O=
:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">The only answer is to turn =
the=20
copyright legislation on its head and to state very clearly that =
material=20
that is not provided with appropriate copyright for use in =
education, will=20
be completely ignored by educators and learners. It is time for the =
users to=20
set copyright terms, not the=20
suppliers.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">The terms and conditions =
that you come=20
across in many web resources are completely unworkable for schools =
and=20
learners. Try looking at a few. There is no way this can be resolved =
from=20
the supplier end, it will have to be resolved from the user end. For =
instance, LT<SPAN =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION=20
u2:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
=
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
w:st=3D"on">Scotland</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>DICTATE what the =
copyright terms=20
and conditions will be for things they licence nationally. The whole =
education community should do=20
similarly.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">There are essentially only 3 =
copyright=20
terms that =
matter:<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">- you can look at it but not =
do=20
anything else with=20
it.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">- you can copy and =
re-purpose it=20
within the defined community of a an educational institution (but =
the=20
community of the institution can only be defined by the institution=20
itself)<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">- it is creative commons and =
you can=20
copy and re-purpose it to your heart's content provided source is=20
=
acknowledged.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black">Roger.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">On 10 Feb 2010, at 11:15, =
theo kuechel=20
wrote:<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: =
black"><BR><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV><U1:P></U1:P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Paul, =
Colleagues;<BR><BR>This is very=20
timely, urgent and probably of greater significance than the many=20
technologies we often discuss, (including iPads, Interactive=20
whiteboards, Web 2.0 applications or VLEs); the outcomes of this=20
consultation are likely to determine how we are allowed to use our =
digital=20
tools, access digital content and by default, determine the =
opportunities we=20
afford our learners. These outcomes will shape the future culture of =
learning for the foreseeable future and permeate all educational =
uses of ICT=20
including distance learning, mobile technologies, student work in =
digital=20
format and the sharing and development of teacher created=20
resources.<BR><BR>Having read<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <ST1:CITY =
u2:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY></SPAN><ST1:CITY =
w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
w:st=3D"on">Marshall</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>'s synopsis and then the =
re-read=20
the documents it appears there is some urgent work to be done. Leon =
Cych has=20
created a copy of Gower's recommendations for educational =
exceptions<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" =
href=3D"http://is.gd/84oFi"=20
target=3D_blank>here</A>, to which we can add comments /annotations. =
Please=20
email<SPAN class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
href=3D"mailto:leoncych@gmail.com" target=3D_blank>Leon</A><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>for =
access.<BR><BR>It think=20
is important we have that debate and I personally look forward to =
reading=20
the Nacce community views, and hopefully. as you suggest, we can =
start to=20
develop a Naace response. I am surprised there is no Naace working =
group on=20
=
this?<BR><BR>Best<BR>Theo<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P=
><U1:P></U1:P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">On 5 February 2010 21:38, =
Paul=20
Springford <<A style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
href=3D"mailto:paul.springford@naace.org"=20
target=3D_blank>paul.springford@naace.org</A>>=20
wrote:<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black">Colleagues<BR><BR>Many of =
you will=20
already have read in the latest Naace newsletter Marshal Mateer's =
article=20
about an important consultation with implications for<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
u2:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
=
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE =
w:st=3D"on">UK</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>schools. Did you already =
know about=20
the Intellectual Property Office (IPO), "the<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">official government body</SPAN></B><SPAN =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN>responsible for granting=20
Intellectual Property (IP) rights in the<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
u2:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE=20
=
u2:st=3D"on"></ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></SPAN><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION =
w:st=3D"on"><ST1:PLACE w:st=3D"on">United=20
Kingdom</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>"? Possibly not. It's their=20
consultation and it deals in part with copyright in education in a =
digital=20
age.<BR><BR>We firmly expect that members will wish to discuss the=20
implications for our schools and colleges here on Naacetalk. We are =
looking=20
for a volunteer to coordinate the discussion and use it as the basis =
of a=20
Naace response to the IPO. Any offers please to<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
href=3D"mailto:paul.springford@naace.co.uk"=20
=
target=3D_blank>paul.springford@naace.co.uk</A><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></=
SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"><BR><BR =
clear=3Dall><BR>--<SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Theo =
Kuechel<BR>Learning=20
Technology Research <BR><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
href=3D"mailto:theo.kuechel@gmail.com"=20
target=3D_blank>theo.kuechel@gmail.com</A><BR><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
href=3D"mailto:T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk"=20
=
target=3D_blank>T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk</A><BR><BR><BR><O:P></O:P></SPAN></F=
ONT></P></DIV><U1:P></U1:P>
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black"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DI=
V></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE=
></SPAN></DIV>
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New Roman'"><FONT=20
face=3DHelvetica color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica">Roger =
Broadie,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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New Roman'"><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-style-span><FONT face=3DHelvetica color=3Dblack =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Helvetica">Director,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
face=3DMonaco color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Monaco"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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New Roman'"><SPAN=20
class=3Dapple-style-span><FONT face=3DHelvetica color=3Dblack =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Helvetica">Broadie=20
Associates</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=3DMonaco color=3Dblack =
size=3D1><SPAN=20
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Monaco"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
=
href=3D"http://www.BroadieAssociates.co.uk">http://www.BroadieAssociates.=
co.uk</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
face=3DMonaco color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica"><A=20
style=3D"COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline"=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk">Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.=
uk</A></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT=20
face=3DMonaco color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
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