[Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and Education
Crispin Weston
crispin.weston@alphalearning.co.uk
Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:39:52 -0000
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Hi Roger,
I agree that no DRM solution is perfect - but many solutions are "good
enough". We are not talking about Fort Knox here.
Isn't the DRM used by iPlayer pretty effective? That runs in a browser.
I agree that static media (text and pictures) are hard to protect. But the
argument I was making was about commercially high value content, which is
not static - e.g. at least video and at the top end, complex interactive
software which can authenticate itself. These are not things which can be
screen-grabbed. It is not then the network that you must secure (not
possible, as you say), but the application or service. No content can escape
the application or service because the application or service *is* the
content or, in an iPlayer type application, the content is running on a
platform managed by the publisher of the content, which comes to much the
same
All you then need to do is to authenticate the *context* of use as bona fide
educational. That is not difficult if that educational activity occurs in an
environment managed by a VLE. I believe that this will increasingly happen
anyway for pedagogical reasons.
See also my reply to Ray. I agree that iconic representation along CC lines
is good - but even better is to automate the process and use the icon as a
means of *informing* the user, not purely as a means of making a contract
with the user. The idea of the contract is generally a fiction anyway
because hardly anyone ever bothers to read the darn Ts&Cs, however simple
they might be.
As far as low-grade, static content goes, I think that it is not only the
educational exceptions that are broken, but the commercial viability of
enforcing any copyright in any sector - unless the content is of such high
value (e.g. stock photography) that expensive enforcement measures can be
funded by the rights holder.
Crispin.
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From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org]
On Behalf Of Roger Broadie
Sent: 19 February 2010 08:35
To: Crispin Weston
Cc: 'secondary'; 'Advisory talk'
Subject: Re: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and
Education
Hi Crispin,
Thanks for supporting the view that the educational exceptions concept is
broken.
And I am afraid the idea that there can be a technical boundary also cannot
work. Access to educational content is now through a browser, even for
software that is used through thin client or secure gateway technologies,
with the software actually running on machines in the school. And if the
user can see something on their screen, they can capture it, even if only as
a screen-grab or by taking a picture of it on their phone.
Sure it is possible to technically limit software and content to running on
specific machines, but that does not fully solve the copyright problem. It
only gives control over quality of the content.
The only copyright control which is workable is legal control through Ts&Cs,
with the Ts&Cs being simple enough for all users to grasp easily.
There can be a sort of technical boundary through closed networks/intranets
that require logon, but even this cannot be precisely defined by the
copyright holder. Some years ago in a 3Com meeting, a network manager from a
university who was attending explained that they had 60 different CATEGORIES
of user on the network, with overlaps all over the place, some being full
'members' of the institution, others being transient users or being some
kind of associate user, making it absolutely impossible to precisely define
numbers of users. The same is true for schools with parents and extended
family needing some access, as well as partner schools, other agencies,
maybe community businesses and so on.
Roger.
On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:39, Crispin Weston wrote:
Hi Roger,
I agree with all you say - the concept of educational exceptions is
essentially broken.
I would only add two points (uncontentious ones, I hope):
1) the simple classification offered by Creative Commons is a real help -
maybe we need some similarly iconic representation of "for educational use";
2) it would be useful to have some kind of technical boundary to that
educational use - this would be feasible for more complex interactive (and
probably high-value) content, though not for simple assets which, as you
say, cannot be kept inside any sort of a useful boundary.
Crispin.
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From: Roger Broadie [mailto:Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk]
Sent: 18 February 2010 17:18
To: Crispin Weston
Cc: 'secondary'; 'Advisory talk'
Subject: Re: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and
Education
Crispin,
Apologies for taking some time to get to replying to your email.
Education dictating copyright terms is certainly NOT code for 'ignore
copyright'. Exactly the opposite in fact, it means assuming everything is
copyright and that it is necessary to positively determine what the Terms
and Conditions (Ts&Cs) for usage are.
The point I am making is that the whole concept of 'educational exceptions'
is broken and cannot be mended. Even if we engaged fully in debate of the
Gower recommendations and the consultation it would not be possible to agree
limits on where things could be accessed, by who, or what materials are
included or not included. The net result would be that any school relying on
educational exceptions to justify how content is being used digitally by
their community will end up hopelessly confused. It's just unworkable. We
could engage with this until the end of eternity and still get no result.
A little story - a big museum set up a nice project, whereby kids could
borrow mobile phones and as they went round the museum could take pictures
of things they found particularly interesting and could then upload these
into online galleries being run by the museum, that the kids could then
access when back in school. But the project ran into a roadblock when they
realised that they had some things in the museum that were on loan and not
owned by themselves, and the terms of the loan did not permit photography of
the object, let alone the making and copying of digital copies.
At some point in the near future kids in schools are going to be permitted
to use their phones to capture images - how many company meetings have you
been in where taking pictures of the whiteboard at the end of a discussion
is just normal practice. Even the builder putting in our loft conversion is
now taking pictures of things to show us. So if they are using some content
in class and need to be able to look at it again at home, they will copy it.
Moral for the school - don't have any content in use that cannot be used in
this way and make sure the kids also know the Ts&Cs (probably 'can be used
by you and on the school platform, can't be put on the Internet or copied to
others).
I believe we should be saying to this consultation:
- Educational exceptions to copyright will no longer work for schools,
because they cannot be limited in space or to what materials are digitised,
given that we are way past the point when digitising devices and spread of
content around networks and the Internet can be controlled by a responsible
organisation, and the people it is necessary to engage in collaborative
learning cannot be limited to single defined institutions and people who are
bone-fide members of those institutions.
- Schools should therefore rely not on exceptions, but on positive
determination of the copyright terms and conditions that apply to the
content they wish to use.
- For education and learning in the digital age, there is a clear need for
as much content as possible to be covered by creative commons Ts&Cs, so that
it can be used as widely as possible, collaboratively, and re-purposed to
aid learning. The amount of this content will continue to grow
exponentially, worldwide, as more and more educators and learners become
content creators.
- Copyright holders will then have to decide for themselves what they have
that has value beyond the creative commons content available, and whether
they are going to adopt copyright Ts&Cs that help educators to use their
content, both with regard to how the content can be used and to the
complexity for the organisation in understanding and managing the copyright
Ts&Cs. (I have seen museum Ts&Cs that run to 12 pages!) To help this process
some simple, single page exemplar Ts&Cs for education purchasers should be
produced. The whole issue of digital rights management would also come in
here - if content owners demand DRM and that makes their content unusable by
schools and their communities, then so be it.
- Similarly, organisations such as the Copyright Licensing Authority will
have to decide if they can make a business by coordinating the copyright
Ts&Cs of a range of defined content providers, in a way that will stimulate
educational use and hence a financial return to the content owners, that the
owners could not themselves achieve by selling to schools directly.
Then as clarity appears as to what content schools can and cannot afford to
use, without reliance on 'educational exceptions', there will be a clear
message for government that if some content is critical for education and is
not being made available for educators and learners to use, in
learning-effective, manageable and affordable ways, then national action
will need to be taken to make such content available.
Roger.
On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:04, Crispin Weston wrote:
Roger,
I agree with you on the underlying problem - but I am not so sure that I
agree with your view of the solution.
The reason why Gower focuses on interactive whiteboards (from our point of
view, maybe somewhat perversely) is that Gower is assuming that something
displayed on an IWB is not then going out of the room - it is a plenary
display device with a clear boundary to the group of people who are
accessing it. This replicates the conditions which applied to the display of
video in classrooms and (on the basis of low and rapidly deteriorating
quality) to the distribution of photocopied hand-outs.
I do not agree with you that the supplier should now dictate copyright terms
(this is really code for "ignore copyright"). The much touted view that the
internet was going to end intellectual property is untrue, for reasons: (a)
- technically, because publishers are increasingly putting in place DRM
protection, (b) because the law is still the law and from time to time very
significant damages are still awarded against file sharers, and (c) - in
principle, because undermining IP would be a disaster which would bring
innovation to a screaming halt.
That is not to say that people, using e.g. creative commons, may elect to
give up their IP if they are able to earn their living some other way (e.g.
by occupying a salaried position or by offering advertising or support
services) - and this might be a very appropriate model for UGC. But the vast
majority of businesses still need to charge for the services they provide in
one way or another - and we need the involvement of industry if we are going
to get access to genuinely innovative products and content.
The other issue with the educational exceptions is the definition of the
material which is affected - something like "literary, dramatic or musical
works" i.e. educational content is not included. If it were, then all
educational publishers would be put out of business overnight. In other
words, the educational exceptions only affect material where education is a
tangential and unimportant source of income to the rights holder.
In this respect, we have to question the distinction (which in this context
becomes very important) between educational and non-educational content. We
are no longer going to distribute a photocopy of Macbeth (literary, not
educational) and then have a chat about it (educational but not replicable)
- we are going to suck in a digital version of Macbeth, probably combined
with some videos of the latest RSC production (commercial/dramatic) and
comments from other teachers (UGC), into an educational software programme
(commercial educational). The boundaries starts to become very complex.
So I have two overall comments on Gower:
1) educational exceptions can be applied fairly easily to what I would call
"plenary displays" (IWBs and visualisers).
2) I am less sure about "distance learning", which is really a synonym for
the internet. Even if the VLE is secure, you cannot then stop the material
being copied by students into non-secure environments. From hereon in,
educational exceptions are insufficient without a technical component. We
must look to DRM solutions which place a reliable "wall" around educational
use and can seamlessly handle the authorisation of non-educational content
within complex orchestrations of different types of content.
Crispin.
PS. you need to send an email to Leon, who will give you access to the
document.
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From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org]
On Behalf Of Roger Broadie
Sent: 11 February 2010 09:00
To: theo kuechel
Cc: beyond@talk.naace.org; primary@talk.naace.org; secondary; Advisory talk
Subject: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] UK Consultation on Copyright and
Education
Theo,
First of all, I cannot access Gower's recommendations for educational
exceptions, I can't get at it through my usual Google docs logon. Please
advise.
However, I will be extremely surprised if ANY educational exceptions will
deal with the situation we now find ourselves in. This is because the
concept of 'educational use' was single person use for their own study,
whereas education use now largely means copying and re-purposing for access
by others who will collaboratively reflect upon what the learner has done
and provide afl feedback. There is no substantive difference between this
and publishing.
It is also almost impossible to limit use to 'use within an educational
institution' because that must now mean use online by the community of
people involved with promoting learning in the institution, and where does
that stop? Does it include Granny who lives in New Zealand and the partner
school in Mexico?
The only answer is to turn the copyright legislation on its head and to
state very clearly that material that is not provided with appropriate
copyright for use in education, will be completely ignored by educators and
learners. It is time for the users to set copyright terms, not the
suppliers.
The terms and conditions that you come across in many web resources are
completely unworkable for schools and learners. Try looking at a few. There
is no way this can be resolved from the supplier end, it will have to be
resolved from the user end. For instance, LT Scotland DICTATE what the
copyright terms and conditions will be for things they licence nationally.
The whole education community should do similarly.
There are essentially only 3 copyright terms that matter:
- you can look at it but not do anything else with it.
- you can copy and re-purpose it within the defined community of a an
educational institution (but the community of the institution can only be
defined by the institution itself)
- it is creative commons and you can copy and re-purpose it to your heart's
content provided source is acknowledged.
Roger.
On 10 Feb 2010, at 11:15, theo kuechel wrote:
Paul, Colleagues;
This is very timely, urgent and probably of greater significance than the
many technologies we often discuss, (including iPads, Interactive
whiteboards, Web 2.0 applications or VLEs); the outcomes of this
consultation are likely to determine how we are allowed to use our digital
tools, access digital content and by default, determine the opportunities we
afford our learners. These outcomes will shape the future culture of
learning for the foreseeable future and permeate all educational uses of ICT
including distance learning, mobile technologies, student work in digital
format and the sharing and development of teacher created resources.
Having read Marshall's synopsis and then the re-read the documents it
appears there is some urgent work to be done. Leon Cych has created a copy
of Gower's recommendations for educational exceptions here
<http://is.gd/84oFi> , to which we can add comments /annotations. Please
email Leon <mailto:leoncych@gmail.com> for access.
It think is important we have that debate and I personally look forward to
reading the Nacce community views, and hopefully. as you suggest, we can
start to develop a Naace response. I am surprised there is no Naace working
group on this?
Best
Theo
On 5 February 2010 21:38, Paul Springford <paul.springford@naace.org> wrote:
Colleagues
Many of you will already have read in the latest Naace newsletter Marshal
Mateer's article about an important consultation with implications for UK
schools. Did you already know about the Intellectual Property Office (IPO),
"the official government body responsible for granting Intellectual Property
(IP) rights in the United Kingdom"? Possibly not. It's their consultation
and it deals in part with copyright in education in a digital age.
We firmly expect that members will wish to discuss the implications for our
schools and colleges here on Naacetalk. We are looking for a volunteer to
coordinate the discussion and use it as the basis of a Naace response to the
IPO. Any offers please to paul.springford@naace.co.uk
--
Theo Kuechel
Learning Technology Research
theo.kuechel@gmail.com
T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk
Roger Broadie,
Director,
Broadie Associates
http://www.BroadieAssociates.co.uk
Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk
99 High Street, Chatteris,
Cambs, PE16 6NP, UK.
tel: +44 1 354 695583
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<st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Knox</st1:PlaceName></st1:place>
here.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Isn’t the DRM used by =
iPlayer
pretty effective? That runs in a browser.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I agree that static media (text =
and
pictures) are hard to protect. But the argument I was making was about =
commercially
high value content, which is not static – e.g. at least video and =
at the
top end, complex interactive software which can authenticate itself. =
These are
not things which can be screen-grabbed. It is not then the network that =
you
must secure (not possible, as you say), but the application or service. =
No
content can escape the application or service because the application or
service *<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>is</span></b>* the content =
or, in an
iPlayer type application, the content is running on a platform managed =
by the
publisher of the content, which comes to much the same =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>All you then need to do is to
authenticate the *context* of use as bona fide educational. That is not =
difficult
if that educational activity occurs in an environment managed by a VLE. =
I
believe that this will increasingly happen anyway for pedagogical =
reasons.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>See also my reply to Ray. I agree =
that
iconic representation along CC lines is good – but even better is =
to automate
the process and use the icon as a means of *informing* the user, not =
purely as
a means of making a contract with the user. The idea of the contract is =
generally
a fiction anyway because hardly anyone ever bothers to read the darn =
Ts&Cs,
however simple they might be.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p=
>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>As far as low-grade, static =
content
goes, I think that it is not only the educational exceptions that are =
broken,
but the commercial viability of enforcing any copyright in any sector =
–
unless the content is of such high value (e.g. stock photography) that =
expensive
enforcement measures can be funded by the rights =
holder.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Crispin.<o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</spa=
n></font></b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">advisory-admin@talk.naace.org</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">advisory-admin@talk.naace.org</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Roger =
Broadie<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 19 February 2010 =
08:35<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Crispin Weston<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> 'secondary'; =
'Advisory talk'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Advisory] =
Re:
[Secondary] <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region>
Consultation on Copyright and Education</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Crispin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks for supporting the view that the educational exceptions =
concept
is broken.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>And I am afraid the idea that there can be a technical boundary =
also
cannot work. Access to educational content is now through a browser, =
even for
software that is used through thin client or secure gateway =
technologies, with
the software actually running on machines in the school. And if the user =
can
see something on their screen, they can capture it, even if only as a
screen-grab or by taking a picture of it on their =
phone.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Sure it is possible to technically limit software and content to
running on specific machines, but that does not fully solve the =
copyright
problem. It only gives control over quality of the =
content.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The only copyright control which is workable is legal control =
through
Ts&Cs, with the Ts&Cs being simple enough for all users to grasp
easily.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>There can be a sort of technical boundary through closed
networks/intranets that require logon, but even this cannot be precisely
defined by the copyright holder. Some years ago in a 3Com meeting, a =
network
manager from a university who was attending explained that they had 60
different CATEGORIES of user on the network, with overlaps all over the =
place,
some being full 'members' of the institution, others being transient =
users or
being some kind of associate user, making it absolutely impossible to =
precisely
define numbers of users. The same is true for schools with parents and =
extended
family needing some access, as well as partner schools, other agencies, =
maybe community
businesses and so on.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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12.0pt'>Roger.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On 18 Feb 2010, at 17:39, Crispin Weston =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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name=3D"address"><u1:smarttagtype =
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name=3D"place"><u1:smarttagtype =
namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Hi =
Roger,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I agree with all you say – =
the
concept of educational exceptions is essentially =
broken.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I would only add two points
(uncontentious ones, I hope):<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>1) the simple classification =
offered by
Creative Commons is a real help – maybe we need some similarly =
iconic
representation of “for educational =
use”;<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u1:p> </u1:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>2) it would be useful to have =
some kind
of technical boundary to that educational use – this would be =
feasible
for more complex interactive (and probably high-value) content, though =
not for
simple assets which, as you say, cannot be kept inside any sort of a =
useful
boundary.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Crispin.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font=
><font
color=3Dblack><span style=3D'color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold=
'>From:</span></font></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DTahoma><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> </span></=
font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>Roger Broadie [<a
href=3D"mailto:Roger@BroadieAssociates.co.uk">mailto:Roger@BroadieAssocia=
tes.co.uk</a>]<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>18 February 2010 17:18<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Crispin Weston<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>'secondary'; 'Advisory =
talk'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Advisory] Re: =
[Secondary]<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"></span><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-=
region><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Consultation on Copyright and =
Education</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Crispin,<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></=
span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Apologies for taking some time to =
get to
replying to your email.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Education dictating copyright =
terms is
certainly NOT code for 'ignore copyright'. Exactly the opposite in fact, =
it
means assuming everything is copyright and that it is necessary to =
positively
determine what the Terms and Conditions (Ts&Cs) for usage =
are.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The point I am making is that the =
whole
concept of 'educational exceptions' is broken and cannot be mended. Even =
if we
engaged fully in debate of the Gower recommendations and the =
consultation it
would not be possible to agree limits on where things could be accessed, =
by
who, or what materials are included or not included. The net result =
would be
that any school relying on educational exceptions to justify how content =
is
being used digitally by their community will end up hopelessly confused. =
It's
just unworkable. We could engage with this until the end of eternity and =
still
get no result.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>A little story - a big museum set =
up a
nice project, whereby kids could borrow mobile phones and as they went =
round
the museum could take pictures of things they found particularly =
interesting
and could then upload these into online galleries being run by the =
museum, that
the kids could then access when back in school. But the project ran into =
a
roadblock when they realised that they had some things in the =
museum that
were on loan and not owned by themselves, and the terms of the loan did =
not
permit photography of the object, let alone the making and copying of =
digital
copies.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>At some point in the near future =
kids in
schools are going to be permitted to use their phones to capture images =
- how
many company meetings have you been in where taking pictures of the =
whiteboard
at the end of a discussion is just normal practice. Even the builder =
putting in
our loft conversion is now taking pictures of things to show us. So if =
they are
using some content in class and need to be able to look at it again at =
home,
they will copy it. Moral for the school - don't have any content in use =
that
cannot be used in this way and make sure the kids also know the =
Ts&Cs
(probably 'can be used by you and on the school platform, can't be put =
on the
Internet or copied to others).<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I believe we should be saying to =
this
consultation:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- Educational exceptions to =
copyright will
no longer work for schools, because they cannot be limited in space or =
to what
materials are digitised, given that we are way past the point when =
digitising
devices and spread of content around networks and the Internet can be
controlled by a responsible organisation, and the people it is necessary =
to
engage in collaborative learning cannot be limited to single defined
institutions and people who are bone-fide members of those =
institutions.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- Schools should therefore rely =
not on
exceptions, but on positive determination of the copyright terms and =
conditions
that apply to the content they wish to =
use.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- For education and learning in =
the
digital age, there is a clear need for as much content as possible to be
covered by creative commons Ts&Cs, so that it can be used as widely =
as
possible, collaboratively, and re-purposed to aid learning. The amount =
of this
content will continue to grow exponentially, worldwide, as more and more
educators and learners become content =
creators.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- Copyright holders will then =
have to
decide for themselves what they have that has value beyond the creative =
commons
content available, and whether they are going to adopt copyright =
Ts&Cs that
help educators to use their content, both with regard to how the content =
can be
used and to the complexity for the organisation in understanding and =
managing the
copyright Ts&Cs. (I have seen museum Ts&Cs that run to 12 =
pages!) To
help this process some simple, single page exemplar Ts&Cs for =
education
purchasers should be produced. The whole issue of digital rights =
management
would also come in here - if content owners demand DRM and that makes =
their
content unusable by schools and their communities, then so be =
it.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- Similarly, organisations such =
as the
Copyright Licensing Authority will have to decide if they can make a =
business
by coordinating the copyright Ts&Cs of a range of defined =
content
providers, in a way that will stimulate educational use and hence a =
financial
return to the content owners, that the owners could not themselves =
achieve by
selling to schools directly.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Then as clarity appears as to =
what content
schools can and cannot afford to use, without reliance on 'educational
exceptions', there will be a clear message for government that if some =
content
is critical for education and is not being made available for educators =
and
learners to use, in learning-effective, manageable and affordable ways, =
then
national action will need to be taken to make such content =
available.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Roger.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On 11 Feb 2010, at 10:04, Crispin =
Weston
wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<u1:p></u1:p><span style=3D'orphans: 2;widows: =
2;-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px;-webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: =
none;
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0px;word-spacing:
0px'><u3:smarttagtype =
namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" =
name=3D"City"><u3:smarttagtype =
namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" =
name=3D"country-region"><u3:smarttagtype =
namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" =
name=3D"place"><u3:smarttagtype =
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break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space'>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Roger,<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I agree with you on the =
underlying
problem – but I am not so sure that I agree with your view of the
solution.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>The reason why Gower focuses on
interactive whiteboards (from our point of view, maybe somewhat =
perversely) is
that Gower is assuming that something displayed on an IWB is not then =
going out
of the room – it is a plenary display device with a clear boundary =
to the
group of people who are accessing it. This replicates the conditions =
which
applied to the display of video in classrooms and (on the basis of low =
and
rapidly deteriorating quality) to the distribution of photocopied =
hand-outs.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>I do not agree with you that the
supplier should now dictate copyright terms (this is really code for
“ignore copyright”). The much touted view that the internet =
was
going to end intellectual property is untrue, for reasons: (a) –
technically, because publishers are increasingly putting in place DRM
protection, (b) because the law is still the law and from time to time =
very
significant damages are still awarded against file sharers, and (c) =
– in
principle, because undermining IP would be a disaster which would bring
innovation to a screaming halt.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>That is not to say that people, =
using
e.g. creative commons, may elect to give up their IP if they are able to =
earn their
living some other way (e.g. by occupying a salaried position or by =
offering
advertising or support services) – and this might be a very =
appropriate
model for UGC. But the vast majority of businesses still need to charge =
for the
services they provide in one way or another – and we need the =
involvement
of industry if we are going to get access to genuinely innovative =
products and
content.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>The other issue with the =
educational
exceptions is the definition of the material which is affected –
something like “literary, dramatic or musical works” i.e.
educational content is not included. If it were, then all educational
publishers would be put out of business overnight. In other words, the
educational exceptions only affect material where education is a =
tangential and
unimportant source of income to the rights =
holder.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
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style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>In this respect, we have to =
question the
distinction (which in this context becomes very important) between =
educational
and non-educational content. We are no longer going to distribute a =
photocopy
of Macbeth (literary, not educational) and then have a chat about it
(educational but not replicable) – we are going to suck in a =
digital
version of Macbeth, probably combined with some videos of the latest RSC
production (commercial/dramatic) and comments from other teachers (UGC), =
into
an educational software programme (commercial educational). The =
boundaries
starts to become very complex.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font =
color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
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color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>So I have two overall comments on =
Gower:<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>1) educational exceptions can be =
applied
fairly easily to what I would call “plenary displays” (IWBs =
and
visualisers).<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>2) I am less sure about =
“distance
learning”, which is really a synonym for the internet. Even if the =
VLE is
secure, you cannot then stop the material being copied by students into
non-secure environments. From hereon in, educational exceptions are
insufficient without a technical component. We must look to DRM =
solutions which
place a reliable “wall” around educational use and can =
seamlessly
handle the authorisation of non-educational content within complex
orchestrations of different types of =
content.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>Crispin.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font=
><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'><u3:p> </u3:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3DVerdana><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:blue'>PS. you need to send an email to =
Leon,
who will give you access to the =
document.<u3:p></u3:p></span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span =
lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold=
'>From:</span></font></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DTahoma><span
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> <st1:pers=
onname u4:st=3D"on"></st1:personname></span></font></span><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:black'><a =
href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">advisory-admin@talk.naace.o=
rg</a><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>[mailto:<st1:personname =
u4:st=3D"on"><a
href=3D"mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org">advisory-admin@talk.naace.o=
rg</a></st1:personname>]<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Roger
Broadie<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>11 February 2010 09:00<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>theo kuechel<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:beyond@talk.naace.org">beyond@talk.naace.org</a>;<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:primary@talk.naace.org">primary@talk.naace.org</a>;
secondary; Advisory talk<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>[Advisory] Re: =
[Secondary]<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u4:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:place></st1:country-region></span><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-=
region><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>Consultation on Copyright and =
Education</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black'><u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font>=
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Theo,<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:=
p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>First of all, I cannot access =
Gower's
recommendations for educational exceptions, I can't get at it through my =
usual
Google docs logon. Please =
advise.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>However, I will be extremely =
surprised if
ANY educational exceptions will deal with the situation we now find =
ourselves
in. This is because the concept of 'educational use' was single person =
use for
their own study, whereas education use now largely means copying and
re-purposing for access by others who will collaboratively reflect upon =
what
the learner has done and provide afl feedback. There is no substantive
difference between this and =
publishing.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>It is also almost impossible to =
limit use
to 'use within an educational institution' because that must now mean =
use
online by the community of people involved with promoting learning in =
the
institution, and where does that stop? Does it include Granny who lives =
in<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:country-region></span><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on">New Zealand</st1:country-region></st1:country-region><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>and the partner school =
in<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u4:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:place></st1:country-region></span><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:coun=
try-region>?<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The only answer is to turn the =
copyright
legislation on its head and to state very clearly that material that is =
not
provided with appropriate copyright for use in education, will be =
completely
ignored by educators and learners. It is time for the users to set =
copyright
terms, not the =
suppliers.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The terms and conditions that you =
come
across in many web resources are completely unworkable for schools and
learners. Try looking at a few. There is no way this can be resolved =
from the
supplier end, it will have to be resolved from the user end. For =
instance, LT<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u4:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:place></st1:country-region></span><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Scotland</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:co=
untry-region><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>DICTATE what the copyright =
terms and
conditions will be for things they licence nationally. The whole =
education
community should do =
similarly.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>There are essentially only 3 =
copyright
terms that =
matter:<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- you can look at it but not do =
anything
else with it.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- you can copy and re-purpose it =
within
the defined community of a an educational institution (but the community =
of the
institution can only be defined by the institution =
itself)<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>- it is creative commons and you =
can copy
and re-purpose it to your heart's content provided source is =
acknowledged.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Roger.<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p> </u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o=
:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On 10 Feb 2010, at 11:15, theo =
kuechel
wrote:<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
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<u1:p></u1:p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3 =
color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><u3:p></u3:p>Paul,
Colleagues;<br>
<br>
This is very timely, urgent and probably of greater significance than =
the many
technologies we often discuss, (including iPads, Interactive =
whiteboards,
Web 2.0 applications or VLEs); the outcomes of this consultation are =
likely to
determine how we are allowed to use our digital tools, access digital =
content
and by default, determine the opportunities we afford our learners. =
These
outcomes will shape the future culture of learning for the foreseeable =
future
and permeate all educational uses of ICT including distance learning, =
mobile
technologies, student work in digital format and the sharing and =
development of
teacher created resources.<br>
<br>
Having read<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:city =
u4:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:place></st1:city></span><st1:city =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:City
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Marshall</st1:place></st1:city></st1:place></st1:City>'s
synopsis and then the re-read the documents it appears there is some =
urgent
work to be done. Leon Cych has created a copy of Gower's recommendations =
for
educational exceptions<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"http://is.gd/84oFi" target=3D"_blank">here</a>, to which we can =
add
comments /annotations. Please email<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:leoncych@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">Leon</a><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>for access.<br>
<br>
It think is important we have that debate and I personally look =
forward
to reading the Nacce community views, and hopefully. as you suggest, we =
can
start to develop a Naace response. I am surprised there is no Naace =
working
group on this?<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Theo<br>
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<br>
<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On 5 February 2010 21:38, Paul =
Springford
<<a href=3D"mailto:paul.springford@naace.org" =
target=3D"_blank">paul.springford@naace.org</a>>
wrote:<u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Colleagues<br>
<br>
Many of you will already have read in the latest Naace newsletter =
Marshal
Mateer's article about an important consultation with implications =
for<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u4:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:place></st1:country-region></span><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-=
region><span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>schools. Did you already know =
about
the Intellectual Property Office (IPO), "the<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>official
government body</span></b><span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span>responsible
for granting Intellectual Property (IP) rights in the<span
class=3Dapple-converted-space> <st1:country-region =
u4:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u4:st=3D"on"></st1:place></st1:country-region></span><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">United =
Kingdom</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:country-region>=
"?
Possibly not. It's their consultation and it deals in part with =
copyright in
education in a digital age.<br>
<br>
We firmly expect that members will wish to discuss the implications for =
our
schools and colleges here on Naacetalk. We are looking for a volunteer =
to
coordinate the discussion and use it as the basis of a Naace response to =
the
IPO. Any offers please to<span =
class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><a
href=3D"mailto:paul.springford@naace.co.uk" =
target=3D"_blank">paul.springford@naace.co.uk</a><u3:p></u3:p><u1:p></u1:=
p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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--<span class=3Dapple-converted-space> </span><br>
Theo Kuechel<br>
Learning Technology Research <br>
<a href=3D"mailto:theo.kuechel@gmail.com" =
target=3D"_blank">theo.kuechel@gmail.com</a><br>
<a href=3D"mailto:T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk" =
target=3D"_blank">T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk</a><br>
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