From rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk Mon Mar 15 15:18:10 2010 From: rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk (Ray Tolley) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:18:10 -0000 Subject: [Advisory] The Amazing Web2.0 Projects Book Message-ID: <002401cac452$b952e3a0$2bf8aae0$@co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CAC452.B952E3A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perhaps Terry Freedman is too shy to advertise his FREE book - or perhaps protocols forbid. As you will see from my comments, I'm very impressed! http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2010/03/amazing-web20-projects-book.html I seriously commend this book as a handbook for all schools. Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, MBILD ICT Education Consultant Maximise ICT Ltd P: http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/ B: http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/ W: http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm T: http://twitter.com/efolio Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009' ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CAC452.B952E3A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Perhaps Terry Freedman is too shy to advertise his = FREE book – or perhaps protocols forbid.  As you will see from my = comments, I’m very impressed!

 

http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2010/03/amazing-web20-projec= ts-book.html

 

I seriously commend this book as a handbook for all = schools.

 

Ray Tolley  FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, = MBILD

ICT Education Consultant

Maximise ICT Ltd

P:  http://raytolley.v2efoliowor= ld.mnscu.edu/

B:  ht= tp://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/

W:  http://www.maximise-ict.co.u= k/eFolio-01.htm

T:    = http://twitter.com/efolio

Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award = 2009'

 

------=_NextPart_000_0025_01CAC452.B952E3A0-- From icttalk@gmail.com Mon Mar 15 16:17:12 2010 From: icttalk@gmail.com (Icttalk) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 16:17:12 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] The Amazing Web2.0 Projects Book In-Reply-To: <002401cac452$b952e3a0$2bf8aae0$@co.uk> References: <002401cac452$b952e3a0$2bf8aae0$@co.uk> Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-8-452350476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ray's got it absolutely right. I second that! Sent from my iPhone On 15 Mar 2010, at 15:18, "Ray Tolley" wrote: > Perhaps Terry Freedman is too shy to advertise his FREE book =E2=80=93 = or pe=20 > rhaps protocols forbid. As you will see from my comments, I=E2=80=99m = very =20 > impressed! > > > > = http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2010/03/amazing-web20-projects-book.html= > > > > I seriously commend this book as a handbook for all schools. > > > > Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, MBILD > > ICT Education Consultant > > Maximise ICT Ltd > > P: http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/ > > B: http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/ > > W: http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm > > T: http://twitter.com/efolio > > Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009' > > --Apple-Mail-8-452350476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ray's got it absolutely right. I = second that!

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Mar 2010, at = 15:18, "Ray Tolley" <rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk> = wrote:

Perhaps Terry Freedman is too shy to advertise = his FREE book =E2=80=93 or perhaps protocols forbid.  As you will see from my = comments, I=E2=80=99m very impressed!

 

http://efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/2010/03/amazing-web20-projects= -book.html

 

I seriously commend this book as a handbook for = all schools.

 

Ray Tolley  FEIDCT, NAACE = Fellow, ACQI, MBILD

ICT Education Consultant

Maximise ICT Ltd

P:  http://ra= ytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/

B:  http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/

W:  http://ww= w.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm

T:    = http://twitter.com/efolio

Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award = 2009'

 

= --Apple-Mail-8-452350476-- From rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk Mon Mar 15 17:34:20 2010 From: rjt@maximise-ict.co.uk (Ray Tolley) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:34:20 -0000 Subject: [Advisory] Using your VLE Message-ID: <006601cac465$bebe6450$3c3b2cf0$@co.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01CAC465.BEBE6450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colleagues, I have been asked to identify if there are any user-characteristics that make one VLE better than another. I know some schools have changed their VLEs more than 3-4 times over the last five years. - It would be interesting to know the reasons for change. Typically, I was asked if one VLE was better than another for teaching English Language. But, I would appreciate any comments about usability off-list direct to me if you wish. Best Wishes, Ray Tolley FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, MBILD ICT Education Consultant Maximise ICT Ltd P: http://raytolley.v2efolioworld.mnscu.edu/ B: http://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/ W: http://www.maximise-ict.co.uk/eFolio-01.htm T: http://twitter.com/efolio Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award 2009' ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01CAC465.BEBE6450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Colleagues,

 

I have been asked to identify if there are any user-characteristics that make one VLE better than another.  I know = some schools have changed their VLEs more than 3-4 times over the last five = years.  -  It would be interesting to know the reasons for = change.

 

Typically, I was asked if one VLE was better than = another for teaching English Language.

 

But, I would appreciate any comments about = usability off-list direct to me if you wish.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Ray Tolley  FEIDCT, NAACE Fellow, ACQI, = MBILD

ICT Education Consultant

Maximise ICT Ltd

P:  http://raytolley.v2efoliowor= ld.mnscu.edu/

B:  ht= tp://www.efoliointheuk.blogspot.com/

W:  http://www.maximise-ict.co.u= k/eFolio-01.htm

T:    = http://twitter.com/efolio

Winner of the IMS 'Leadership Regional Award = 2009'

 

------=_NextPart_000_0067_01CAC465.BEBE6450-- From paul.springford@naace.org Mon Mar 15 22:19:42 2010 From: paul.springford@naace.org (Paul Springford) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:19:42 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] World Cup teaching ideas Message-ID: --00032555971e183e270481de4777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues Naace has received this request for ICT teaching ideas for DCSF magazines. Because of you know what in Blackpool, we've no time to collate your ideas, so please respond directly to Mealanie, but do mention Naace. By all means share your ideas on Naacetalk too. I'm sure members acting collectively can generate a year's worth of teaching and learning ideas Thanks Paul =================================================================== From: Melissa Crowther Hi Bernadette I'm the editor of the DCSF magazines Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers and wonder if you can help me quickly with a page of World Cup related teaching ideas that we're putting together for our May issue? I know it's your conference this week, but I'd be really grateful if you could... I'm hoping Naace can provide me with one great World Cup-based ICT activity idea for primary and one for secondary that we could include, which our readers could then adapt themselves to use in class/tutor time etc. We're looking for a short paragraph of instructions explaining the activity (60 words or so) in very practical terms, eg "show the pupils this specific YouTube clip, then divide the class into groups and get each group to discuss the issues...". Here's an example from the recent resources we did to tie in with the upcoming general election: POLITICAL FIGURES Ask pupils to research their MP, local councillor and MEP on the internet. Split the class into groups of six. Ask each child to suggest an issue (for example, 'there are not enough police on the streets') and get the group to decide whether it is a local, national or international concern. Did some groups come to different conclusions with similar issues? Ask the class to write to their headteacher, MP, councillor or MEP expressing their opinions. Do you think this would be possible? I'm afraid we're on a tight deadline, so it would be great if you could possibly get back to me with the ideas by this Friday... Let me know if this sounds ok. Many thanks Melissa -- Melissa Crowther Editor Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers magazines John Brown 136-142 Bramley road London W10 6SR Direct: 020 7565 3270 --00032555971e183e270481de4777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Colleagues

Naace has received this request for ICT teaching ideas fo= r DCSF magazines.

Because of you know what in Blackpool, we've n= o time to collate your ideas, so please respond directly to Mealanie, but d= o mention Naace.

By all means share your ideas on Naacetalk too. I'm sure members ac= ting collectively can generate a year's worth of teaching and learning = ideas

Thanks

Paul

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
From: Melissa Crowther <Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com>

Hi Bernadette
I'm the editor of the DCSF magazines Primary Teachers and Secondary=20 Teachers and wonder if you can help me quickly with a page of World Cup=20 related teaching ideas that we're putting together for our May issue? I= =20 know it's your conference this week, but I'd be really grateful if = you=20 could...

I'm hoping Naace can provide me with one great World Cup-based ICT=20 activity idea for primary and one for secondary that we could include,=20 which our readers could then adapt themselves to use in class/tutor time etc.

We're looking for a short paragraph of instructions explaining the=20 activity (60 words or so) in very practical terms, eg "show the pupils= =20 this specific YouTube clip, then divide the class into groups and get=20 each group to discuss the issues...".

Here's an example from the recent resources we did to tie in with the= =20 upcoming general election:

POLITICAL FIGURES Ask pupils to research their MP, local councillor and=20 MEP on the internet. Split the class into groups of six. Ask each child=20 to suggest an issue (for example, 'there are not enough police on the= =20 streets') and get the group to decide whether it is a local, national o= r international concern. Did some groups come to different conclusions=20 with similar issues? Ask the class to write to their headteacher, MP,=20 councillor or MEP expressing their opinions.

Do you think this would be possible? I'm afraid we're on a tight=20 deadline, so it would be great if you could possibly get back to me with the ideas by this Friday... Let me know if this sounds ok.
Many thanks
Melissa
--
Melissa Crowther
Editor
Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers magazines

John Brown
136-142 Bramley road
London W10 6SR

Direct: 020 7565 3270
--00032555971e183e270481de4777-- From paul.springford@naace.org Mon Mar 15 22:55:30 2010 From: paul.springford@naace.org (Paul Springford) Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:55:30 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] Re: World Cup teaching ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --00032555a02e1c71af0481dec7c9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ignore Melanie. Try Melissa instead... On 15 March 2010 22:19, Paul Springford wrote: > Colleagues > > Naace has received this request for ICT teaching ideas for DCSF magazines. > > Because of you know what in Blackpool, we've no time to collate your ideas, > so please respond directly to Mealanie, but do mention Naace. > > By all means share your ideas on Naacetalk too. I'm sure members acting > collectively can generate a year's worth of teaching and learning ideas > > Thanks > > Paul > > =================================================================== > From: Melissa Crowther > > Hi Bernadette > I'm the editor of the DCSF magazines Primary Teachers and Secondary > Teachers and wonder if you can help me quickly with a page of World Cup > related teaching ideas that we're putting together for our May issue? I know > it's your conference this week, but I'd be really grateful if you could... > > I'm hoping Naace can provide me with one great World Cup-based ICT activity > idea for primary and one for secondary that we could include, which our > readers could then adapt themselves to use in class/tutor time etc. > > We're looking for a short paragraph of instructions explaining the activity > (60 words or so) in very practical terms, eg "show the pupils this specific > YouTube clip, then divide the class into groups and get each group to > discuss the issues...". > > Here's an example from the recent resources we did to tie in with the > upcoming general election: > > POLITICAL FIGURES Ask pupils to research their MP, local councillor and MEP > on the internet. Split the class into groups of six. Ask each child to > suggest an issue (for example, 'there are not enough police on the streets') > and get the group to decide whether it is a local, national or international > concern. Did some groups come to different conclusions with similar issues? > Ask the class to write to their headteacher, MP, councillor or MEP > expressing their opinions. > > Do you think this would be possible? I'm afraid we're on a tight deadline, > so it would be great if you could possibly get back to me with the ideas by > this Friday... Let me know if this sounds ok. > Many thanks > Melissa > -- > Melissa Crowther > Editor > Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers magazines > > John Brown > 136-142 Bramley road > London W10 6SR > > Direct: 020 7565 3270 > --00032555a02e1c71af0481dec7c9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ignore Melanie. Try Melissa instead...

On= 15 March 2010 22:19, Paul Springford <paul.springford@naace.org> wrot= e:
Colleagues
Naace has received this request for ICT teaching ideas for DCSF magazines.=

Because of you know what in Blackpool, we've no time to collate you= r ideas, so please respond directly to Mealanie, but do mention Naace.

By all means share your ideas on Naacetalk too. I'm sure members ac= ting collectively can generate a year's worth of teaching and learning = ideas

Thanks

Paul

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
From: Melissa Crowther <Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com>

Hi Bernadette
I'm the editor of the DCSF magazines Primary Teachers and Secondary=20 Teachers and wonder if you can help me quickly with a page of World Cup=20 related teaching ideas that we're putting together for our May issue? I= =20 know it's your conference this week, but I'd be really grateful if = you=20 could...

I'm hoping Naace can provide me with one great World Cup-based ICT=20 activity idea for primary and one for secondary that we could include,=20 which our readers could then adapt themselves to use in class/tutor time etc.

We're looking for a short paragraph of instructions explaining the=20 activity (60 words or so) in very practical terms, eg "show the pupils= =20 this specific YouTube clip, then divide the class into groups and get=20 each group to discuss the issues...".

Here's an example from the recent resources we did to tie in with the= =20 upcoming general election:

POLITICAL FIGURES Ask pupils to research their MP, local councillor and=20 MEP on the internet. Split the class into groups of six. Ask each child=20 to suggest an issue (for example, 'there are not enough police on the= =20 streets') and get the group to decide whether it is a local, national o= r international concern. Did some groups come to different conclusions=20 with similar issues? Ask the class to write to their headteacher, MP,=20 councillor or MEP expressing their opinions.

Do you think this would be possible? I'm afraid we're on a tight=20 deadline, so it would be great if you could possibly get back to me with the ideas by this Friday... Let me know if this sounds ok.
Many thanks
Melissa
--
Melissa Crowther
Editor
Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers magazines

John Brown
136-142 Bramley road
London W10 6SR

Direct: 020 7565 3270

--00032555a02e1c71af0481dec7c9-- From paul.springford@naace.org Tue Mar 16 09:16:30 2010 From: paul.springford@naace.org (Paul Springford) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:16:30 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] Fwd: [Primary] World Cup teaching ideas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --00032555b3e6fd35470481e7737e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I started collating some ideas on Primary Pad, feel free to add to it if you like? Not finished yet by any means! http://mraddison.primarypad.com/3 Ian Addison Learning Platform Project Consultant - EdICT ICT Mark Assessor ________________________________ From: primary-admin@talk.naace.org on behalf of Paul Springford Sent: Mon 15/03/2010 22:19 To: beyond@talk.naace.org; primary@talk.naace.org; secondary@talk.naace.org; Advisory talk Subject: [Primary] World Cup teaching ideas Colleagues Naace has received this request for ICT teaching ideas for DCSF magazines. Because of you know what in Blackpool, we've no time to collate your ideas, so please respond directly to Mealanie, but do mention Naace. By all means share your ideas on Naacetalk too. I'm sure members acting collectively can generate a year's worth of teaching and learning ideas Thanks Paul =================================================================== From: Melissa Crowther Hi Bernadette I'm the editor of the DCSF magazines Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers and wonder if you can help me quickly with a page of World Cup related teaching ideas that we're putting together for our May issue? I know it's your conference this week, but I'd be really grateful if you could... I'm hoping Naace can provide me with one great World Cup-based ICT activity idea for primary and one for secondary that we could include, which our readers could then adapt themselves to use in class/tutor time etc. We're looking for a short paragraph of instructions explaining the activity (60 words or so) in very practical terms, eg "show the pupils this specific YouTube clip, then divide the class into groups and get each group to discuss the issues...". Here's an example from the recent resources we did to tie in with the upcoming general election: POLITICAL FIGURES Ask pupils to research their MP, local councillor and MEP on the internet. Split the class into groups of six. Ask each child to suggest an issue (for example, 'there are not enough police on the streets') and get the group to decide whether it is a local, national or international concern. Did some groups come to different conclusions with similar issues? Ask the class to write to their headteacher, MP, councillor or MEP expressing their opinions. Do you think this would be possible? I'm afraid we're on a tight deadline, so it would be great if you could possibly get back to me with the ideas by this Friday... Let me know if this sounds ok. Many thanks Melissa -- Melissa Crowther Editor Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers magazines John Brown 136-142 Bramley road London W10 6SR Direct: 020 7565 3270 --00032555b3e6fd35470481e7737e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I started collating some ideas on Primar= y Pad, feel free to add to it if you like? Not finished yet by any means!
http://mrad= dison.primarypad.com/3

Ian Addison
Learning Platform Project Consultant - EdICT
ICT Mark Assessor

________________________________

From: primary-admin@talk.na= ace.org on behalf of Paul Springford
Sent: Mon 15/03/2010 22:19
To: beyond@talk.naace.org; primary@talk.naace.org; secondary@talk.naace.org; Advisory= talk
Subject: [Primary] World Cup teaching ideas


Colleagues

Naace has received this request for ICT teaching ideas for DCSF magazines.<= br>
Because of you know what in Blackpool, we've no time to collate your id= eas, so please respond directly to Mealanie, but do mention Naace.

By all means share your ideas on Naacetalk too. I'm sure members acting= collectively can generate a year's worth of teaching and learning idea= s

Thanks

Paul

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From: Melissa Crowther <Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com>

Hi Bernadette
I'm the editor of the DCSF magazines Primary Teachers and Secondary Tea= chers and wonder if you can help me quickly with a page of World Cup relate= d teaching ideas that we're putting together for our May issue? I know = it's your conference this week, but I'd be really grateful if you c= ould...

I'm hoping Naace can provide me with one great World Cup-based ICT acti= vity idea for primary and one for secondary that we could include, which ou= r readers could then adapt themselves to use in class/tutor time etc.

We're looking for a short paragraph of instructions explaining the acti= vity (60 words or so) in very practical terms, eg "show the pupils thi= s specific YouTube clip, then divide the class into groups and get each gro= up to discuss the issues...".

Here's an example from the recent resources we did to tie in with the u= pcoming general election:

POLITICAL FIGURES Ask pupils to research their MP, local councillor and MEP= on the internet. Split the class into groups of six. Ask each child to sug= gest an issue (for example, 'there are not enough police on the streets= ') and get the group to decide whether it is a local, national or inter= national concern. Did some groups come to different conclusions with simila= r issues? Ask the class to write to their headteacher, MP, councillor or ME= P expressing their opinions.

Do you think this would be possible? I'm afraid we're on a tight de= adline, so it would be great if you could possibly get back to me with the = ideas by this Friday... Let me know if this sounds ok.
Many thanks
Melissa
--
Melissa Crowther
Editor
Primary Teachers and Secondary Teachers magazines

John Brown
136-142 Bramley road
London W10 6SR

Direct: 020 7565 3270


--00032555b3e6fd35470481e7737e-- From icttalk@gmail.com Tue Mar 16 10:28:45 2010 From: icttalk@gmail.com (Rob Ellis) Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:28:45 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] World Cup Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3351580130_1162934 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3351580130_1160195" --B_3351580130_1160195 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hi Melissa, I=B9m at the Naace conference and heard you=B9re looking for some World Cup activities. Please see attached. I hope they=B9re some help. Regards, --=20 Rob Ellis MSc BEd DipMathsEd CertEd E: icttalk@gmail.com W: http://www.icttalk.co.uk T: 01983 567900 M: 07834 185801 --B_3351580130_1160195 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable World Cup Hi Melissa,

I’m at the Naace conference and heard you’re looking for some W= orld Cup activities. Please see attached. I hope they’re some help.
Regards,
--
Rob Ellis MSc BEd DipMathsEd CertEd

E: icttalk@gmail.com
W: http://www.icttalk.co.uk
T: 01983 567900
M: 07834 185801
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AAAAAAAAAAD///////////////8AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= --B_3351580130_1162934-- From paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk Wed Mar 17 21:05:05 2010 From: paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk (Paul Vale Vale) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:05:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Advisory] Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <529128.31577.qm@web27508.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1284832460-1268859905=:31577 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh dear - I think I am guilty of going out of my way to provide a range of = educational activities that are real, recent and relevant to the lives of c= hildren I am working with!! In various on-line projects I have been involve= d with I have certainly asked children to research their local MP - and inv= ited them into school to meet the children. I always get my children to wat= ch the way each politician listens very carefully to the question asked and= turn it round to say what they want to say. I just love the way, irrespect= ive of their political party, politicians are able to field the most awkwar= d and difficult of questions, without necessarily giving an answer and yet = making the question/questioner feel valued! Great for modelling listening a= nd speaking skills!!=0A=0AAlongside being only too pleased to visit their s= chools - I have found MPs only to keen to invite children to visit their lo= cal town hall (Manchester is a fantastic building!!) - as well as the House= of Commons. The guided tour round the HoC is just brilliant!! =0A=0AThat s= aid - I have also invited a range of other people into schools ranging from= athletes (Olympic Games project) authors (famous authors project), famous = ex-pupils and indeed people like my late mother-in-law - who was able to gi= ve her first hand experiences of being evacuated during the Manchester blit= z. All these activities were tied into National Curriculum areas such as Li= teracy, History, ICT etc .... but more importantly were far more real and m= eaningful - and elicited far greater quantity and quality work and learning= from my students.=0A=0AAs for an on-line World Cup Activity - alongside te= aching web-safety, 'netiquette' and general on-line behaviour:=0A=0A1. With= in the school's learning platform (or register with Oracle's free for schoo= ls to use 'www.thinkquest.org) =0A2. Set up accounts for students involved = (each student account has 25 pages)=0A3. Ask students to create 10 (or more= ) web-pages on their favourite world cup countries - within pages get stude= nts to upload:=0A=0A* text about the country and their players=0A* pictures= , photos, animations, video clips about each country and their players=0A* = make the pages interactive using the on-line features (eg. votes to see whi= ch team you think will win the world cup, ask me a question about a country= etc) - so that other students can contribute, post messages=0A* create a '= World Cup Project' setting up a number of project pages that all students i= nvolved can contribute to=0A=0A4. Contact the school's local football leagu= e team and invite the manager and players in to talk about their life as a = footballer and the country they would play for - ask students to=0A=0A* cre= ate another web-page about the visit of the manager/soccer players =0A* inc= lude text, multi-media and make the page interactive=0A=0A5. Ask local foot= ball club to arrange a tour, visit to training ground (teams like Mancheste= r City and Manchester Untied are brilliant - but so are 'lesser' teams like= Oldham, Stockport, Macclesfield etc:=0A=0A* again set up a separate web-pa= ge about the visit to include text, multimedia, making it interactive etc = =0A =0A6. Link up with another local school and organise a mini 'world-cup = tournament' between the two classes - ensuring there were, say, 4 or 5 mini= games and there was a mix of girls/boys from each school in each team (eac= h team playing every other team for 5 mins)=0A=0A* and again set up a web-p= age to celebrate the day=0A=0AIf you would like further information - parti= cularly relating to setting up Oracle's free to use www.thinkquest.org acco= unts - please let me know!=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0A=0APaul=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____= ____________________________=0AFrom: "JNutt@cfbt.com" =0ATo= : mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk=0ASent: Wed, 17 March, 2010 8:20:36=0ASubjec= t: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children.=0A=0A=0AAm I really = the only Mirandanetter who=0Anoticed what was considered a suitable topic c= irculated yesterday on behalf=0Aof the DCSF Primary and Secondary Teachers'= Magazines? =0A=0AThe "Political Figures" example=0Agiven, says so much abo= ut what passes for education now. The idea that=0Aany professional teacher = actually believes this is a suitable educational=0Aactivity for any child u= nder 18 appalls me. One of the things the Teach=0AFirst graduates were very= concerned about when I taught them, was how to=0Aavoid this kind of trite = politicisation of other people's children, largely=0Abecause they had been= victims of it themselves. =0AJoe, =0AJoe Nutt=0APrincipal Consultant=0AC= fBT=0AMobile: 07771 353804=0A=0A=0A =0AIf you have received this email in e= rror, please delete it.Any views or opinions are those of the sender and do= not necessarily represent those of the organisation.This email has been ch= ecked for known viruses;however we cannot accept liability for any damage s= ustained as a result of a software virus.The organisation reserves the righ= t to monitor emails in accordance with current legislation.=0A=0Awww.cfbt.c= om=0A=0ACfBT Education Trustis a registered charity and a company limited b= y guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Company No. 867944. Charity N= o. 270901. Registered Office: 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1 4BS, United King= dom. =0A=0AOther companies in the CfBT Education Trust Group which are acti= ve are:=0ACfBT Advice and Guidance Ltdis a registered charity and a company= limited by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Company No. 330728.= Charity Number 270901-1. Registered Office: 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1 4= BS, United Kingdom. =0AWaverley School (Crowthorne) Ltdis a registered char= ity and a company limited by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Co= mpany No. 936622. Charity Number 309102. Registered Office: 60 Queens Road,= Reading, RG1 4BS, United Kingdom. =0AWaverley School (Waverley Way) Ltdis = a private company limited by shares. Company No. 318157. Registered Office:= 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1 4BS, United Kingdom.=0ALeague for the Exchang= e of Commonwealth Teachersis a company limited by guarantee and a registere= d charity. Registered in England and Wales. Company No. 4294081. Charity No= . 1089920. Registered office: 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1 4BS, United Kin= gdom.=0A=0A=0A --0-1284832460-1268859905=:31577 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh dear - I think I am guilty of going out of my way to provide a= range of educational activities that are real, recent and relevant to the = lives of children I am working with!! In various on-line projects I have be= en involved with I have certainly asked children to research their local MP= - and invited them into school to meet the children. I always get my child= ren to watch the way each politician listens very carefully to the question= asked and turn it round to say what they want to say. I just love the way,= irrespective of their political party, politicians are able to field the m= ost awkward and difficult of questions, without necessarily giving an answe= r and yet making the question/questioner feel valued! Great for modelling l= istening and speaking skills!!

Alongside being only too pleased to visit their schools - I have found MPs only to keen to= invite children to visit their local town hall (Manchester is a fantastic = building!!) - as well as the House of Commons. The guided tour round the Ho= C is just brilliant!! 

That said - I have als= o invited a range of other people into schools ranging from athletes (Olymp= ic Games project) authors (famous authors project), famous ex-pupils and in= deed people like my late mother-in-law - who was able to give her first han= d experiences of being evacuated during the Manchester blitz. All these act= ivities were tied into National Curriculum areas such as Literacy, History,= ICT etc .... but more importantly were far more real and meaningful - and = elicited far greater quantity and quality work and learning from my student= s.

As for an on-line World Cup Activity - alongsid= e teaching web-safety, 'netiquette' and general on-line behaviour:

1. Within the school's learning = platform (or register with Oracle's free for schools to use 'www.thinkquest.org
2. Set up accounts for students involved (each student accoun= t has 25 pages)
3. Ask students to create 10 (or more) web-pages = on their favourite world cup countries - within pages get students to uploa= d:

* text about the country and their players
* pictures, photos, animations, video clips about each country and th= eir players
* make the pages interactive using the on-line featur= es (eg. votes to see which team you think will win the world cup, ask me a = question about a country etc) - so that other students can contribute, post= messages
* create a 'World Cup Project' setting up a number of p= roject pages that all students involved can contribute to

4. Contact the school's local football league = team and invite the manager and players in to talk about their life as a fo= otballer and the country they would play for - ask students to
* create another web-page about the visit of the manager/socce= r players 
* include text, multi-media and make the page int= eractive

5. Ask local football club to arrange a t= our, visit to training ground (teams like Manchester City and Manchester Un= tied are brilliant - but so are 'lesser' teams like Oldham, Stockport, Macc= lesfield etc:

* again set up a separate web-page a= bout the visit to include text, multimedia, making it interactive etc =
 
6. Link up with another local school and organi= se a mini 'world-cup tournament' between the two classes - ensuring there w= ere, say, 4 or 5 mini games and there was a mix of girls/boys from each school in each team (each team playing every other team for 5 mins)

* and again set up a web-page to celebrate the day<= /div>

If you would like further information - part= icularly relating to setting up Oracle's free to use www.thinkquest.org accounts - please = let me know!

Regards,

<= div>
Paul




To: mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk
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Subject: [Mira= ndaLink] Politicising Other People's Children.

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=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1284832460-1268859905=:31577-- From paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk Fri Mar 19 09:45:44 2010 From: paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk (Paul Vale Vale) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:45:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: [Advisory] Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <310045.42898.qm@web27506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1069916019-1268991944=:42898 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joe,=0A=0AWow - are these your views and/or that of CfBT? Yes I have rea= d the URL link - and whilst I think I would be very careful about whether t= o invite the likes of the PM, David Cameron etc into school during the run = up to the next election - are you advocating banning them? I wonder how pol= iticians would view headteachers banning any political party coming into sc= hools where there are children under the age if 18. My feeling is that it w= ould make ideal front page news for our Manchester Evening News!!=0A=0AI re= member one headteacher I worked for banning children under 3 to the Christm= as Concert as during the previous year's performance no-one could hear the = actors voices for crying babies - despite asking parents to go out of the h= all who point blank refused. The MEN headline read: 'The Scrooge of Christm= as lives on!!'=0A,=0AActually - whilst politicians will undoubtedly have th= eir own agendas - I don't think inviting politicians is much different to i= nviting other groups of people at all. In primary schools as I said in my l= ast post I would use MPs to get children invitations to the town hall, Hous= e of Commons - as well as celebrating childrens' work. I have also asked MP= s to share with children what their life is like as a politician (where the= y live, how much time they spend in their constituency, in London etc. In s= econdary school I was impressed when my daughter's school invited a range o= f political people into school to speak to a Politics GCSE set over term to= give a balance of views. Similarly - I would also invite different sports = people (ie. not just footballers), people from different religions (eg. pri= ests, vicars, rabbis, Imans etc) and whilst schools have to be very careful= about who they invite into school these days on safeguarding issues, I thi= nk you would be on dangerous ground banning any specific group of people. =0A=0AYour li= nk mentions teachers and people working in schools who have very strong pol= itical views which is a totally different issue - and whilst I have worked = with people who have views I am uncomfortable with - those same people have= often been fantastic teachers and people I have learned much from. However= , if I suspected any teacher politicising other childrens' views I would be= the first to take appropriate action and expect that teacher to be brought= to task. =0A=0AOf course teachers will be asked questions about who they v= ote for, however, those sorts of question come in the same breath as - "how= old are you, are you a red or a blue (United or City), have you got a girl= friend, are you married, have you got children, how many etc" and teachers = learn how to field those sorts of questions as part of setting up the param= eters of the classroom environment. As a young teacher from North London, I= can remember regretting telling my class I supported Watford as a football= team as they ribbed me mercilessly (much as my friends and family still do= !!) - and finding out over time the skills of how to deal with awkward ques= tions and answering them and building relationships with students without c= ompromising myself.=0A=0AFor me - I would always advocate start with workin= g with colleagues and determining a sensible philosophy of why we are doing= what we are doing in school - that can be flexible enough to recognise tha= t there are occasions when that philosophy can be tested and needs to be th= ought through again, altered, fine tuned etc.=0A=0AWith that philosophy I w= ould feel happy about inviting people in from wide walks of the community. = As long as there was a reason for them being there and they were fit and pr= oper people to be working around children - and they were aware of why they= were being invited into school (eg. to celebrate the work children were in= volved with, to answer questions children posed, with sports people may be = run a training session, demonstrate how to sprint start, dribble and pass e= tc). =0A=0AI would also say that anyone who comes into school is a guest of= the school and is there for a purpose and I would be very clear to anyone = I was going to invite in about what that purpose was. As a teacher I would = go much further and detail exactly how I had planned that particular lesson= and their involvement. Although it has never happened - I could envisage a= visitor breaking those terms of engagement and I would have no hesitation = in intervening and/or stopping the lesson!=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0A=0APaul=0A=0A= =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "JNutt@cfbt.com" =0ATo: Paul Vale Vale =0ACc: Naacetalk ; Chris Binns ; Melissa.Crow= ther@johnbrownmedia.com; mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk; primary@talk.naace.o= rg=0ASent: Thu, 18 March, 2010 8:11:56=0ASubject: Re: [MirandaLink] Politic= ising Other People's Children.=0A=0A=0APaul, =0AThere is a fundamental diff= erence between=0Athe other professions you mention and any poltician, howev= er infamous.=0AThis discussion which took place around the time of Obama's = election last=0Ayear makes it very clear why. =0Ahttp://teachersaid.wordpre= ss.com/2009/04/22/on-staying-relevant-politics-and-opinions-in-the-classroo= m/ =0AJoe, =0AJoe Nutt=0APrincipal Consultant=0ACfBT=0AMobile: 07771 35380= 4=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0APaul Vale Vale =0A17/03/201= 0 21:05 To JNutt@cfbt.com, mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk =0Acc Melissa.Cro= wther@johnbrownmedia.com,=0ANaacetalk , primary@ta= lk.naace.org, Chris=0ABinns =0ASubject Re: = [MirandaLink] Politicising Other=0APeople's Children. =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A= Oh dear - I think I am guilty of going out=0Aof my way to provide a range o= f educational activities that are real, recent=0Aand relevant to the lives = of children I am working with!! In various on-line=0Aprojects I have been i= nvolved with I have certainly asked children to research=0Atheir local MP -= and invited them into school to meet the children. I always=0Aget my child= ren to watch the way each politician listens very carefully=0Ato the questi= on asked and turn it round to say what they want to say. I=0Ajust love the = way, irrespective of their political party, politicians are=0Aable to field= the most awkward and difficult of questions, without necessarily=0Agiving = an answer and yet making the question/questioner feel valued! Great=0Afor m= odelling listening and speaking skills!! =0A=0AAlongside being only too ple= ased to visit=0Atheir schools - I have found MPs only to keen to invite chi= ldren to visit=0Atheir local town hall (Manchester is a fantastic building!= !) - as well=0Aas the House of Commons. The guided tour round the HoC is ju= st brilliant!! =0A=0AThat said - I have also invited a range of=0Aother pe= ople into schools ranging from athletes (Olympic Games project)=0Aauthors (= famous authors project), famous ex-pupils and indeed people like=0Amy late = mother-in-law - who was able to give her first hand experiences=0Aof being = evacuated during the Manchester blitz. All these activities were=0Atied int= o National Curriculum areas such as Literacy, History, ICT etc=0A.... but m= ore importantly were far more real and meaningful - and elicited=0Afar grea= ter quantity and quality work and learning from my students. =0A=0AAs for a= n on-line World Cup Activity - alongside=0Ateaching web-safety, 'netiquette= ' and general on-line behaviour: =0A=0A1. Within the school's learning plat= form=0A(or register with Oracle's free for schools to use 'www.thinkquest.o= rg) =0A2. Set up accounts for students involved=0A(each student account ha= s 25 pages) =0A3. Ask students to create 10 (or more) web-pages=0Aon their = favourite world cup countries - within pages get students to upload: =0A=0A= * text about the country and their players =0A* pictures, photos, animation= s, video clips=0Aabout each country and their players =0A* make the pages i= nteractive using the on-line=0Afeatures (eg. votes to see which team you th= ink will win the world cup,=0Aask me a question about a country etc) - so t= hat other students can contribute,=0Apost messages =0A* create a 'World Cup= Project' setting up=0Aa number of project pages that all students involved= can contribute to =0A=0A4. Contact the school's local football league=0Ate= am and invite the manager and players in to talk about their life as=0Aa fo= otballer and the country they would play for - ask students to =0A=0A* crea= te another web-page about the visit=0Aof the manager/soccer players =0A* i= nclude text, multi-media and make the=0Apage interactive =0A=0A5. Ask local= football club to arrange a tour,=0Avisit to training ground (teams like Ma= nchester City and Manchester Untied=0Aare brilliant - but so are 'lesser' t= eams like Oldham, Stockport, Macclesfield=0Aetc: =0A=0A* again set up a sep= arate web-page about=0Athe visit to include text, multimedia, making it int= eractive etc =0A =0A6. Link up with another local school and=0Aorganise a= mini 'world-cup tournament' between the two classes - ensuring=0Athere wer= e, say, 4 or 5 mini games and there was a mix of girls/boys from=0Aeach sch= ool in each team (each team playing every other team for 5 mins) =0A=0A* an= d again set up a web-page to celebrate=0Athe day =0A=0AIf you would like fu= rther information - particularly=0Arelating to setting up Oracle's free to = use www.thinkquest.orgaccounts - please let me know! =0A=0ARegards, =0A=0A= =0APaul =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "JNutt@cfbt.co= m"=0A=0ATo: mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk=0ASent: Wed, 17 Ma= rch, 2010 8:20:36=0ASubject: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Chil= dren.=0A=0A=0AAm I really the only Mirandanetter who noticed what was consi= dered a suitable=0Atopic circulated yesterday on behalf of the DCSF Primary= and Secondary=0ATeachers' Magazines?=0A=0AThe "Political Figures" example = given, says so much about what=0Apasses for education now. The idea that an= y professional teacher actually=0Abelieves this is a suitable educational a= ctivity for any child under 18=0Aappalls me. One of the things the Teach Fi= rst graduates were very concerned=0Aabout when I taught them, was how to av= oid this kind of trite politicisation=0Aof other people's children, largely= because they had been victims=0Aof it themselves.=0AJoe, =0AJoe Nutt=0AP= rincipal Consultant=0ACfBT=0AMobile: 07771 353804=0A=0A=0A=0AIf you have re= ceived this email in error, please delete it.Any views or=0Aopinions are th= ose of the sender and do not necessarily represent those=0Aof the organisat= ion.This email has been checked for known viruses;however=0Awe cannot accep= t liability for any damage sustained as a result of a software=0Avirus.The = organisation reserves the right to monitor emails in accordance=0Awith curr= ent legislation.=0A=0Awww.cfbt.com=0A=0ACfBT Education Trust is a registere= d charity and a company limited=0Aby guarantee. Registered in England and W= ales. Company No. 867944. Charity=0ANo. 270901. Registered Office: 60 Queen= s Road, Reading, RG1 4BS, United=0AKingdom. =0A=0AOther companies in the Cf= BT Education Trust Group which are active are:=0ACfBT Advice and Guidance L= td is a registered charity and a company=0Alimited by guarantee. Registered= in England and Wales. Company No. 330728.=0ACharity Number 270901-1. Regis= tered Office: 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1=0A4BS, United Kingdom. =0AWaverl= ey School (Crowthorne) Ltd is a registered charity and a company=0Alimited = by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Company No. 936622.=0ACharit= y Number 309102. Registered Office: 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1=0A4BS, Uni= ted Kingdom. =0AWaverley School (Waverley Way) Ltd is a private company lim= ited by=0Ashares. Company No. 318157. Registered Office: 60 Queens Road, Re= ading,=0ARG1 4BS, United Kingdom.=0ALeague for the Exchange of Commonwealth= Teachers is a company limited by guarantee=0Aand a registered charity. Reg= istered in England and Wales. Company No.=0A4294081. Charity No. 1089920. = Registered office: 60 Queens Road,=0AReading, RG1 4BS, United Kingdom. =0A= =0A=0AIf you have received this email in error, please delete it.Any views = or opinions are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those = of the organisation.This email has been checked for known viruses;however w= e cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of a softwar= e virus.The organisation reserves the right to monitor emails in accordance= with current legislation.=0A=0Awww.cfbt.com=0A=0ACfBT Education Trustis a = registered charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registered in Englan= d and Wales. Company No. 867944. Charity No. 270901. 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Hi Joe,

Wow - are these your views = and/or that of CfBT? Yes I have read the URL link - and whilst I think I wo= uld be very careful about whether to invite the likes of the PM, David Came= ron etc into school during the run up to the next election - are you advoca= ting banning them? I wonder how politicians would view headteachers banning= any political party coming into schools where there are children under the= age if 18. My feeling is that it would make ideal front page news for our = Manchester Evening News!!

I remember one headteach= er I worked for banning children under 3 to the Christmas Concert as during= the previous year's performance no-one could hear the actors voices for cr= ying babies - despite asking parents to go out of the hall who point blank refused. The MEN headline read: 'The Scrooge of Christmas lives on!!= '
,
Actually - whilst politicians will undoubtedly have= their own agendas - I don't think inviting politicians is much different t= o inviting other groups of people at all. In primary schools as I said in m= y last post I would use MPs to get children invitations to the town hall, H= ouse of Commons - as well as celebrating childrens' work. I have also asked= MPs to share with children what their life is like as a politician (where = they live, how much time they spend in their constituency, in London etc. I= n secondary school I was impressed when my daughter's school invited a rang= e of political people into school to speak to a Politics GCSE set over term= to give a balance of views. Similarly - I would also invite different spor= ts people (ie. not just footballers), people from different religions (eg.&= nbsp;priests, vicars, rabbis, Imans etc) and whilst schools have to be very careful about who they invite into school these days on safeguardi= ng issues, I think you would be on dangerous ground banning any specif= ic group of people. 

Your link mentions teach= ers and people working in schools who have very strong political views whic= h is a totally different issue - and whilst I have worked with people who h= ave views I am uncomfortable with - those same people have often been fanta= stic teachers and people I have learned much from. However, if I suspected = any teacher politicising other childrens' views I would be the first to tak= e appropriate action and expect that teacher to be brought to task. 

Of course teachers will be asked questions about wh= o they vote for, however, those sorts of question come in the same breath a= s - "how old are you, are you a red or a blue (United or City), have you go= t a girlfriend, are you married, have you got children, how many etc" and teachers learn how to field those sorts of questions as part of s= etting up the parameters of the classroom environment. As a young teacher f= rom North London, I can remember regretting telling my class I supported Wa= tford as a football team as they ribbed me mercilessly (much as my friends = and family still do!!) - and finding out over time the skills of how to dea= l with awkward questions and answering them and building relationships with= students without compromising myself.

For me - I = would always advocate start with working with colleagues and determining a = sensible philosophy of why we are doing what we are doing in school - that = can be flexible enough to recognise that there are occasions when that phil= osophy can be tested and needs to be thought through again, altered, fine t= uned etc.

With that philosophy I would feel happy = about inviting people in from wide walks of the community. As long as there was a reason for them being there and they were fit and proper pe= ople to be working around children - and they were aware of why they were b= eing invited into school (eg. to celebrate the work children were involved = with, to answer questions children posed, with sports people may be run a t= raining session, demonstrate how to sprint start, dribble and pass etc).&nb= sp;

I would also say that anyone who comes into sc= hool is a guest of the school and is there for a purpose and I would be ver= y clear to anyone I was going to invite in about what that purpose was. As = a teacher I would go much further and detail exactly how I had planned that= particular lesson and their involvement. Although it has never happened - = I could envisage a visitor breaking those terms of engagement and I would h= ave no hesitation in intervening and/or stopping the lesson!

Regards,


Paul


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To:= Paul Vale Vale <paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk>
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There is a fundamental difference between=0Athe other professions y= ou mention and any poltician, however infamous.=0AThis discussion which too= k place around the time of Obama's election last=0Ayear makes it very clear= why.=0A
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Oh dear - I think I am guilty of going out=0Aof my way to= provide a range of educational activities that are real, recent=0Aand rele= vant to the lives of children I am working with!! In various on-line=0Aproj= ects I have been involved with I have certainly asked children to research= =0Atheir local MP - and invited them into school to meet the children. I al= ways=0Aget my children to watch the way each politician listens very carefu= lly=0Ato the question asked and turn it round to say what they want to say.= I=0Ajust love the way, irrespective of their political party, politicians = are=0Aable to field the most awkward and difficult of questions, without ne= cessarily=0Agiving an answer and yet making the question/questioner feel va= lued! Great=0Afor modelling listening and speaking skills!!=0A
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Alongside being only too pleased to = visit=0Atheir schools - I have found MPs only to keen to invite children to= visit=0Atheir local town hall (Manchester is a fantastic building!!) - as = well=0Aas the House of Commons. The guided tour round the HoC is just brill= iant!!=0A=0A
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That said - I= have also invited a range of=0Aother people into schools ranging from athl= etes (Olympic Games project)=0Aauthors (famous authors project), famous ex-= pupils and indeed people like=0Amy late mother-in-law - who was able to giv= e her first hand experiences=0Aof being evacuated during the Manchester bli= tz. All these activities were=0Atied into National Curriculum areas such as= Literacy, History, ICT etc=0A.... but more importantly were far more real = and meaningful - and elicited=0Afar greater quantity and quality work and l= earning from my students.=0A
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=0A=0AThe recent Ofsted presentation at the Naace conference got me thinking = -=0A especially when the words - you can't do history using ICT were =0Autt= ered...
=0A
=0AI am trying to garner interest - I will also be approa= ching industry and=0A HE especially tutors interested in using Arduino in c= onjunction with =0Apico boards to and from Second Life via Scratch.
=0A<= br>=0AI should imagine this will be a very specialist innovative interest = =0Agroup - it will be set up initially to share ideas and move things =0Afo= rwards in this area and to develop innovative practice - anyone from =0Aind= ustry is also more than welcome.
=0A
=0AI also found it interesting t= hat girls are falling off ICT curriculum - =0Aalmost everyone I know dealin= g with Design and Arduino in Real World =0Aindustries is female - surely a= big mismatch is going on here.
=0A
=0AThe interest group will meet t= wice a term to discuss what they are doing=0A in their class or institution= or company. You will need to have :

an =0AAvatar in Second Life, a quicktime movie player,
a soundcard +=0Aheadphones
the new Seco= nd Life Viewer software
a broadband connection at home

=0A
= =0APlease do get back to me (offlist please) if you are interested and I = =0Awill set up an initial meeting after Easter in Second Life.
=0A
= =0ALeon Cych
=0A
--0-204520213-1268998607=:62921-- From richardmillwood@mac.com Fri Mar 19 12:17:39 2010 From: richardmillwood@mac.com (Richard Millwood) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:17:39 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] Re: [Secondary] Scratch Programming and "control" in Second Life In-Reply-To: <146207.62921.qm@web86608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <146207.62921.qm@web86608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <72F31B15-6877-461B-B404-583B7DC3FCBE@mac.com> --Boundary_(ID_qCwFryIvOpbQAT78sMwS3w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On 19 Mar 2010, at 11:36, Leon Cych wrote: > the words - you can't do history using ICT were uttered... A curious position - can you tell me more about the source of this Leon? If you are proposing a response to this kind of statement by looking at programming and gaming as pedagogical approaches, why would you not also respond by considering: - exploiting movie archives, - exploring authentic data, - counter-factual simulation of historical events, - simulated archaeology....? >From my perspective none of these approaches (including gaming and programming) would be truly innovative, since they were all developed in the seventies and eighties using various ICTs - the speaker, I would suggest, shows a profound ignorance of history! Nevertheless, there is a need to review the above listed approaches in the light of new technology opportunities, so more power to your elbow! regards, Richard -- Director R I C H A R D M I L L W O O D Reader in Distributed Learning Core Education UK +44 779 055 8641 Institute for Educational Cybernetics richard.millwood@core-ed.org.uk University of Bolton www.core-ed.org.uk r.millwood@bolton.ac.uk www.naec.org.uk richardmillwood.net idibl.bolton.ac.uk --Boundary_(ID_qCwFryIvOpbQAT78sMwS3w) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
 the words - you can't do = history using ICT were = uttered...

A curious position - = can you tell me more about the source of this = Leon?

If you are proposing a response to this = kind of statement by looking at programming and gaming as pedagogical = approaches, why would you not also respond by = considering:
 - exploiting movie = archives, 
 - exploring authentic = data, 
 - counter-factual simulation of historical = events, 
 - simulated = archaeology....?

=46rom my perspective none of = these approaches (including gaming and programming) would be truly = innovative, since they were all developed in the seventies and eighties = using various ICTs - the speaker, I would suggest, shows a profound = ignorance of history!

Nevertheless, there is a = need to review the above listed approaches in the light of new = technology opportunities, so more power to your = elbow!

regards, Richard


Director       R I C H A = R D   M I L L W O O D   Reader in Distributed = Learning
Core Education UK     +44 779 055 8641 =    Institute for Educational Cybernetics
richard.millwood@core-ed.o= rg.uk                   =          University of Bolton
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<= /span>
= --Boundary_(ID_qCwFryIvOpbQAT78sMwS3w)-- From pete.bradshaw@vital.ac.uk Fri Mar 19 18:58:30 2010 From: pete.bradshaw@vital.ac.uk (Pete Bradshaw) Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:58:30 -0000 Subject: [Advisory] Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. In-Reply-To: <310045.42898.qm@web27506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <310045.42898.qm@web27506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <197174305B214FFB908C61D7A7EB194B@open.ac.uk> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CAC796.2A61E140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul You ay you might hesitate to invite the PM or David Cameron into school during a run up to an election. Maybe so but I can remember working in Derbyshire during the run up to a by election in the 1980s. We did invite top politicians into talk with sixth formers - Neil Kinnock, Jeffrey Archer and, I think, Paddy Ashdown (although my memory is a bit hazy on the last). It was a tremendous learning experience that was followed up with discussions led by teaching staff. All very positive I thought - bringing students into contact with political processes and people. Similarly in the 90s our local Dorset MEP was a frequent visitor to school (along with other community leaders). In 1998/99 I accompanied many MPs into all types of school (I think the youngest children were year 2) as part of the Tesco SchoolNet2000 project. Pupils interviewed the politicians as part of planned curriculum activities. At the same time I remember my local special school having a project that involved year 5s talking to all manner of community leaders - including the MP. In some cases the visiting politician did not relate well to the children - but then again I have plenty of experiences of business people coming in and being equally ill at ease with the school situation. But in most cases that didn't happen and it was a really good opportunity for children to get to understand a little bit more about the role of elected representatives. It humanized people that the media often demonize. It engaged young people with politicians (and hopefully with democratic processes) at a time when they may be anything but engaged. Of course the visitors have their own agenda - but don't we all? Generally it is the curriculum! In this case of Citizenship... As with all things in school the visits need to be integrated into a wider scheme of work, managed, prepared and followed up by teachers - but I sort of take that as read. Pete Pete Bradshaw Dept of Education | The Open University Walton Hall | Milton Keynes | MK7 6AA _____ From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] On Behalf Of Paul Vale Vale Sent: 19 March 2010 09:46 To: JNutt@cfbt.com Cc: Naacetalk; Chris Binns; Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com; mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk; primary@talk.naace.org Subject: [Advisory] Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. Hi Joe, Wow - are these your views and/or that of CfBT? Yes I have read the URL link - and whilst I think I would be very careful about whether to invite the likes of the PM, David Cameron etc into school during the run up to the next election - are you advocating banning them? I wonder how politicians would view headteachers banning any political party coming into schools where there are children under the age if 18. My feeling is that it would make ideal front page news for our Manchester Evening News!! I remember one headteacher I worked for banning children under 3 to the Christmas Concert as during the previous year's performance no-one could hear the actors voices for crying babies - despite asking parents to go out of the hall who point blank refused. The MEN headline read: 'The Scrooge of Christmas lives on!!' , Actually - whilst politicians will undoubtedly have their own agendas - I don't think inviting politicians is much different to inviting other groups of people at all. In primary schools as I said in my last post I would use MPs to get children invitations to the town hall, House of Commons - as well as celebrating childrens' work. I have also asked MPs to share with children what their life is like as a politician (where they live, how much time they spend in their constituency, in London etc. In secondary school I was impressed when my daughter's school invited a range of political people into school to speak to a Politics GCSE set over term to give a balance of views. Similarly - I would also invite different sports people (ie. not just footballers), people from different religions (eg. priests, vicars, rabbis, Imans etc) and whilst schools have to be very careful about who they invite into school these days on safeguarding issues, I think you would be on dangerous ground banning any specific group of people. Your link mentions teachers and people working in schools who have very strong political views which is a totally different issue - and whilst I have worked with people who have views I am uncomfortable with - those same people have often been fantastic teachers and people I have learned much from. However, if I suspected any teacher politicising other childrens' views I would be the first to take appropriate action and expect that teacher to be brought to task. Of course teachers will be asked questions about who they vote for, however, those sorts of question come in the same breath as - "how old are you, are you a red or a blue (United or City), have you got a girlfriend, are you married, have you got children, how many etc" and teachers learn how to field those sorts of questions as part of setting up the parameters of the classroom environment. As a young teacher from North London, I can remember regretting telling my class I supported Watford as a football team as they ribbed me mercilessly (much as my friends and family still do!!) - and finding out over time the skills of how to deal with awkward questions and answering them and building relationships with students without compromising myself. For me - I would always advocate start with working with colleagues and determining a sensible philosophy of why we are doing what we are doing in school - that can be flexible enough to recognise that there are occasions when that philosophy can be tested and needs to be thought through again, altered, fine tuned etc. With that philosophy I would feel happy about inviting people in from wide walks of the community. As long as there was a reason for them being there and they were fit and proper people to be working around children - and they were aware of why they were being invited into school (eg. to celebrate the work children were involved with, to answer questions children posed, with sports people may be run a training session, demonstrate how to sprint start, dribble and pass etc). I would also say that anyone who comes into school is a guest of the school and is there for a purpose and I would be very clear to anyone I was going to invite in about what that purpose was. As a teacher I would go much further and detail exactly how I had planned that particular lesson and their involvement. Although it has never happened - I could envisage a visitor breaking those terms of engagement and I would have no hesitation in intervening and/or stopping the lesson! Regards, Paul _____ From: "JNutt@cfbt.com" To: Paul Vale Vale Cc: Naacetalk ; Chris Binns ; Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com; mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk; primary@talk.naace.org Sent: Thu, 18 March, 2010 8:11:56 Subject: Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. Paul, There is a fundamental difference between the other professions you mention and any poltician, however infamous. This discussion which took place around the time of Obama's election last year makes it very clear why. http://teachersaid.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/on-staying-relevant-politics-and -opinions-in-the-classroom/ Joe, Joe Nutt Principal Consultant CfBT Mobile: 07771 353804 Paul Vale Vale 17/03/2010 21:05 To JNutt@cfbt.com, mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk cc Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com, Naacetalk , primary@talk.naace.org, Chris Binns Subject Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. Oh dear - I think I am guilty of going out of my way to provide a range of educational activities that are real, recent and relevant to the lives of children I am working with!! In various on-line projects I have been involved with I have certainly asked children to research their local MP - and invited them into school to meet the children. I always get my children to watch the way each politician listens very carefully to the question asked and turn it round to say what they want to say. I just love the way, irrespective of their political party, politicians are able to field the most awkward and difficult of questions, without necessarily giving an answer and yet making the question/questioner feel valued! Great for modelling listening and speaking skills!! Alongside being only too pleased to visit their schools - I have found MPs only to keen to invite children to visit their local town hall (Manchester is a fantastic building!!) - as well as the House of Commons. The guided tour round the HoC is just brilliant!! That said - I have also invited a range of other people into schools ranging from athletes (Olympic Games project) authors (famous authors project), famous ex-pupils and indeed people like my late mother-in-law - who was able to give her first hand experiences of being evacuated during the Manchester blitz. All these activities were tied into National Curriculum areas such as Literacy, History, ICT etc .... but more importantly were far more real and meaningful - and elicited far greater quantity and quality work and learning from my students. As for an on-line World Cup Activity - alongside teaching web-safety, 'netiquette' and general on-line behaviour: 1. Within the school's learning platform (or register with Oracle's free for schools to use ' www.thinkquest.org) 2. Set up accounts for students involved (each student account has 25 pages) 3. Ask students to create 10 (or more) web-pages on their favourite world cup countries - within pages get students to upload: * text about the country and their players * pictures, photos, animations, video clips about each country and their players * make the pages interactive using the on-line features (eg. votes to see which team you think will win the world cup, ask me a question about a country etc) - so that other students can contribute, post messages * create a 'World Cup Project' setting up a number of project pages that all students involved can contribute to 4. Contact the school's local football league team and invite the manager and players in to talk about their life as a footballer and the country they would play for - ask students to * create another web-page about the visit of the manager/soccer players * include text, multi-media and make the page interactive 5. Ask local football club to arrange a tour, visit to training ground (teams like Manchester City and Manchester Untied are brilliant - but so are 'lesser' teams like Oldham, Stockport, Macclesfield etc: * again set up a separate web-page about the visit to include text, multimedia, making it interactive etc 6. Link up with another local school and organise a mini 'world-cup tournament' between the two classes - ensuring there were, say, 4 or 5 mini games and there was a mix of girls/boys from each school in each team (each team playing every other team for 5 mins) * and again set up a web-page to celebrate the day If you would like further information - particularly relating to setting up Oracle's free to use www.thinkquest.org accounts - please let me know! Regards, Paul _____ From: "JNutt@cfbt.com" To: mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk Sent: Wed, 17 March, 2010 8:20:36 Subject: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children. Am I really the only Mirandanetter who noticed what was considered a suitable topic circulated yesterday on behalf of the DCSF Primary and Secondary Teachers' Magazines? The "Political Figures" example given, says so much about what passes for education now. The idea that any professional teacher actually believes this is a suitable educational activity for any child under 18 appalls me. One of the things the Teach First graduates were very concerned about when I taught them, was how to avoid this kind of trite politicisation of other people's children, largely because they had been victims of it themselves. Joe, Joe Nutt Principal Consultant CfBT Mobile: 07771 353804 If you have received this email in error, please delete it.Any views or opinions are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of the organisation.This email has been checked for known viruses;however we cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of a software virus.The organisation reserves the right to monitor emails in accordance with current legislation. www.cfbt.com CfBT Education Trust is a registered charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Company No. 867944. Charity No. 270901. Registered Office: 60 Queens Road, Reading, RG1 4BS, United Kingdom. Other companies in the CfBT Education Trust Group which are active are: CfBT Advice and Guidance Ltd is a registered charity and a company limited by guarantee. Registered in England and Wales. Company No. 330728. Charity Number 270901-1. 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Paul

 

You ay = you might hesitate to invite the PM or David Cameron into school during a run up = to an election. Maybe so but I can remember working in Derbyshire during the = run up to a by election in the 1980s. We did invite top politicians into talk = with sixth formers – Neil Kinnock, Jeffrey Archer and, I think, Paddy = Ashdown (although my memory is a bit hazy on the last). It was a tremendous = learning experience that was followed up with discussions led by teaching staff. All very = positive I thought – bringing students into contact with political = processes and people.

 

Similarly in the 90s our local Dorset MEP was a frequent visitor to school (along with = other community leaders). In 1998/99 I accompanied many MPs into all types of school (I = think the youngest children were year 2) as part of the Tesco SchoolNet2000 = project. Pupils interviewed the politicians as part of planned curriculum activities. At = the same time I remember my local special school having a project that = involved year 5s talking to all manner of community leaders – including the = MP.

 

In some = cases the visiting politician did not relate well to the children – but = then again I have plenty of experiences of business people coming in and being = equally ill at ease with the school situation. But in most cases that didn’t = happen and it was a really good opportunity for children to get to understand a little = bit more about the role of elected representatives. It humanized people that = the media often demonize. It engaged young people with politicians (and = hopefully with democratic processes) at a time when they may be anything but = engaged. Of course the visitors have their own agenda – but don’t we all? = Generally it is the curriculum! In this case of Citizenship... As with all things in school = the visits need to be integrated into a wider scheme of work, managed, = prepared and followed up by teachers – but I sort of take that as = read.

Pete

Pete Bradshaw
Dept of Education | The Open University
Walton Hall | Milton Keynes | MK7 = 6AA


From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] = On Behalf Of Paul Vale Vale
Sent: 19 March 2010 = 09:46
To: JNutt@cfbt.com
Cc: Naacetalk; Chris = Binns; Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com; mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk; primary@talk.naace.org
Subject: [Advisory] Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's = Children.

 

Hi Joe,

 

Wow - are these your views and/or that of CfBT? Yes I = have read the URL link - and whilst I think I would be very careful about = whether to invite the likes of the PM, David Cameron etc into school during the run = up to the next election - are you advocating banning them? I wonder how = politicians would view headteachers banning any political party coming into schools = where there are children under the age if 18. My feeling is that it would make = ideal front page news for our Manchester Evening = News!!

 

I remember one headteacher I worked for banning = children under 3 to the Christmas Concert as during the previous year's = performance no-one could hear the actors voices for crying babies - despite asking = parents to go out of the hall who point blank refused. The MEN headline read: = 'The Scrooge of Christmas lives on!!'

,

Actually - whilst politicians will undoubtedly have = their own agendas - I don't think inviting politicians is much different to = inviting other groups of people at all. In primary schools as I said in my last = post I would use MPs to get children invitations to the town hall, House of = Commons - as well as celebrating childrens' work. I have also asked MPs to share = with children what their life is like as a politician (where they live, how = much time they spend in their constituency, in London etc. In secondary = school I was impressed when my daughter's school invited a range of political people = into school to speak to a Politics GCSE set over term to give a balance of = views. Similarly - I would also invite different sports people (ie. not just footballers), people from different religions (eg. priests, vicars, rabbis, Imans etc) and whilst schools have to be very careful about who = they invite into school these days on safeguarding issues, I think you = would be on dangerous ground banning any specific group of = people. 

 

Your link mentions teachers and people working in = schools who have very strong political views which is a totally different issue = - and whilst I have worked with people who have views I am uncomfortable with = - those same people have often been fantastic teachers and people I have learned = much from. However, if I suspected any teacher politicising other childrens' = views I would be the first to take appropriate action and expect that teacher to = be brought to task. 

 

Of course teachers will be asked questions about who = they vote for, however, those sorts of question come in the same breath as - "how old are you, are you a red or a blue (United or City), have = you got a girlfriend, are you married, have you got children, how many etc" = and teachers learn how to field those sorts of questions as part of setting = up the parameters of the classroom environment. As a young teacher from North = London, I can remember regretting telling my class I supported Watford as a football team as they ribbed me mercilessly (much as my friends and = family still do!!) - and finding out over time the skills of how to deal with = awkward questions and answering them and building relationships with students = without compromising myself.

 

For me - I would always advocate start with working = with colleagues and determining a sensible philosophy of why we are doing = what we are doing in school - that can be flexible enough to recognise that = there are occasions when that philosophy can be tested and needs to be thought = through again, altered, fine tuned etc.

 

With that philosophy I would feel happy about = inviting people in from wide walks of the community. As long as there was a = reason for them being there and they were fit and proper people to be working = around children - and they were aware of why they were being invited into = school (eg. to celebrate the work children were involved with, to answer questions = children posed, with sports people may be run a training session, demonstrate how = to sprint start, dribble and pass etc). 

 

I would also say that anyone who comes into school is = a guest of the school and is there for a purpose and I would be very clear = to anyone I was going to invite in about what that purpose was. As a = teacher I would go much further and detail exactly how I had planned that = particular lesson and their involvement. Although it has never happened - I could = envisage a visitor breaking those terms of engagement and I would have no = hesitation in intervening and/or stopping the lesson!

 

Regards,

 

 

Paul

 


From: "JNutt@cfbt.com" <JNutt@cfbt.com>
To: Paul Vale Vale <paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Naacetalk = <advisory@talk.naace.org>; Chris Binns <christopher.binns@oracle.com>; = Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com; mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk; = primary@talk.naace.org
Sent: Thu, 18 March, 2010 = 8:11:56
Subject: Re: = [MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's Children.


Paul,
There is a fundamental difference between the other professions you mention = and any poltician, however infamous. This discussion which took place around the = time of Obama's election last year makes it very clear why. =
http://teachersaid.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/on-staying-= relevant-politics-and-opinions-in-the-classroom/
Joe,
Joe Nutt
Principal Consultant
CfBT
Mobile: 07771 353804




Paul Vale Vale <paulvalev@yahoo.co.uk> =

17/03/2010 21:05

To

JNutt@cfbt.com, mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk

cc

Melissa.Crowther@johnbrownmedia.com, Naacetalk <advisory@talk.naace.org>, primary@talk.naace.org, = Chris Binns <christopher.binns@oracle.com> =

Subject

Re: [MirandaLink] Politicising Other = People's Children.

 

 

 





Oh dear - I think I am guilty of going out of my way to provide a = range of educational activities that are real, recent and relevant to the = lives of children I am working with!! In various on-line projects I have been = involved with I have certainly asked children to research their local MP - and = invited them into school to meet the children. I always get my children to watch = the way each politician listens very carefully to the question asked and = turn it round to say what they want to say. I just love the way, irrespective of = their political party, politicians are able to field the most awkward and = difficult of questions, without necessarily giving an answer and yet making the question/questioner feel valued! Great for modelling listening and = speaking skills!!

Alongside being only too pleased to visit their schools - I have found MPs only to = keen to invite children to visit their local town hall (Manchester is a fantastic = building!!) - as well as the House of Commons. The guided tour round the HoC is just = brilliant!!

That said - I have also invited a range of other people into schools ranging = from athletes (Olympic Games project) authors (famous authors project), = famous ex-pupils and indeed people like my late mother-in-law - who was able to = give her first hand experiences of being evacuated during the Manchester = blitz. All these activities were tied into National Curriculum areas such as = Literacy, History, ICT etc .... but more importantly were far more real and = meaningful - and elicited far greater quantity and quality work and learning from my students.

As for an on-line World Cup Activity - alongside teaching web-safety, = 'netiquette' and general on-line behaviour:

1. Within the school's learning platform (or register with Oracle's free = for schools to use 'www.thinkquest.org)
2. Set up accounts for students involved (each student account has 25 = pages)
3. Ask students to create 10 (or more) web-pages on their favourite world cup countries - within pages get students to upload:

* text about the country and their players
* pictures, photos, animations, video clips about each country and their = players
* make the pages interactive using the on-line features (eg. votes to see which = team you think will win the world cup, ask me a question about a country etc) = - so that other students can contribute, post messages
* create a 'World Cup Project' setting up a number of project pages that all = students involved can contribute to

4. Contact the school's local football league team and invite the manager = and players in to talk about their life as a footballer and the country they = would play for - ask students to

* create another web-page about the visit of the manager/soccer players =
* include text, multi-media and make the page interactive =

5. Ask local football club to arrange a tour, visit to training ground (teams = like Manchester City and Manchester Untied are brilliant - but so are 'lesser' teams like = Oldham, Stockport, Macclesfield etc:

* again set up a separate web-page about the visit to include text, = multimedia, making it interactive etc
 
6. Link up with another local school and organise a mini 'world-cup = tournament' between the two classes - ensuring there were, say, 4 or 5 mini games = and there was a mix of girls/boys from each school in each team (each team playing = every other team for 5 mins)

* and again set up a web-page to celebrate the day

If you would like further information - particularly relating to setting up = Oracle's free to use www.thinkquest.org accounts - please let me know!

Regards,


Paul



From: "JNutt@cfbt.com" <JNutt@cfbt.com>
To:
mirandalink@mirandanet.ac.uk
Sent:
Wed, 17 March, 2010 8:20:36
Subject:
[MirandaLink] Politicising Other People's = Children.



Am I really the only Mirandanetter who noticed what was considered a = suitable topic circulated yesterday on behalf of the DCSF Primary and Secondary Teachers' Magazines?


The "Political Figures" example given, says so much about what = passes for education now. The idea that any professional teacher actually = believes this is a suitable educational activity for any child under 18 appalls = me. One of the things the Teach First graduates were very concerned about when I = taught them, was how to avoid this kind of trite politicisation of other = people's children, largely because they  had been victims of it = themselves.

Joe,  

Joe Nutt
Principal Consultant
CfBT
Mobile: 07771 353804



If you have received this email in error, please delete it.Any views or opinions are those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those = of the organisation.This email has been checked for known viruses;however we = cannot accept liability for any damage sustained as a result of a software = virus.The organisation reserves the right to monitor emails in accordance with = current legislation.

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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01CAC796.2A61E140-- From brian@briansmithonline.com Sat Mar 20 16:35:27 2010 From: brian@briansmithonline.com (Brian Smith) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:35:27 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: <197174305B214FFB908C61D7A7EB194B@open.ac.uk> References: <310045.42898.qm@web27506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <197174305B214FFB908C61D7A7EB194B@open.ac.uk> Message-ID: <48E31D83-35C9-447A-B910-E65C00F5C3ED@briansmithonline.com> --Apple-Mail-10-885435523 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and = nit-picking over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In = the meantime the world's children are disengaging from education en = masse. (If they need datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and = probably most do when they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum = with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too = many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David = Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder = almost daily.=20 And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems = mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - = there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to = live in. See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVRi8_fXz1D8 So what's the solution? Needless to say I haven't a clue. But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to = problem-solve and debate. Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our = sessions. You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in = Thailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of = people by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on = Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - = and their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average = classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow = my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an = innovative Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds = accessing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he = was using to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT = Show. Nothing reached his children without being filtered by him - yet = even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is = blocked. How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers = can't show them the benefits technology can bring? Unlock the Web My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their = classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But = the starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much = as necessary. Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access would = be so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on = the whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. So how about this.=20 Consider the roads analogy.=20 We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them = shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut.=20 But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety.=20= We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating.=20 Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed.=20 In between we are talking about everything else. A suggestion: On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites = for specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go = ANYWHERE else. But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class = filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and = the 11 years old a lot more. AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. = The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter = or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - = she can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll = only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have = Twitterfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a = particular lesson, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds = between receipt and display. Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and = collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. Just like on the road. As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet = safety training. And on that subject, see these two articles:: A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety = training: = http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-= mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html Managed rather than locked down: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after = conference. What do you think? Brian Smith --------------------------------------- Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't you, = let me know. Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion.= --Apple-Mail-10-885435523 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Following this year's = conference, I'm struggling to find solutions.

Clearly = Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking over = whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the = world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they need = datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when = they buy some technical Lego or a similar = toy).

The pressure to break the mould and throw = out the Victorian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is = building towards bursting point. Too many bright people are saying it: = Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and = their voices getting louder almost = daily. 

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film = showed that increasing global problems mean that if we don't create a = 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there may be no need for five = A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in.

So what's the = solution?
Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But = I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve = and debate.
Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a = global audience to our sessions.
You do realise, don't you, = that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand and many comments were = being retweeted to a global network of people by an educator in Ecuador. = That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real = chalk-face practitioners turning their back on Government and Ofsted and = getting together to share innovative ideas - and their sessions were = streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

This = global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. In = its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos = from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 = teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter = - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using to = receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. = Nothing reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even = he, as a teacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is = blocked.

How can children become the "people we = need" when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology = can bring?

Unlock the Web
My = instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their = classes but that ignores Internet safety = issues.

The more I think about it the more I = know that it depends on age. But the starting point should be open = access and then lock down only as much as necessary.

Consider = nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be so = wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on = the whiteboard is surely damaging the children's = prospects.

So how about = this. 
Consider the roads analogy. 
We wouldn't = let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them shut indoors = or safe in the garden with the gate shut. 
But we also go out = onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. 
We do it by = constantly explaining and demonstrating. 
Not = incessantly, just every time a road needs to be = crossed. 
In between we are talking about everything = else.

A suggestion:
On the net, then, I think we = should direct young children to safe sites for specific activities and = have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE else.

But not a = county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class filter = because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the 11 = years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the = children's access points. The teacher should have unfettered access so = if she wants to use Twitter or any other social networking site - or MSN = - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. Because she won't let the children on = that computer and she'll only ever access these sites as part of a = lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the big screen for a particular = purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with a TA monitoring content = in the seconds between receipt and display.

Thus the children are = safe but they also learn to communicate and collaborate as the teacher = holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As they grow older = the filters come off but only with adequate internet safety = training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A = school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety = training:
http://www.thisisplymout= h.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-det= ail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bbc.= co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after = conference.

What do you = think?

Brian = Smith


----------------------------= -----------
Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and = if you aren't you, let me know.
Oh and by the way, the content = *is* my opinion.
= --Apple-Mail-10-885435523-- From dfee@btinternet.com Sat Mar 20 18:44:29 2010 From: dfee@btinternet.com (Leon Cych) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:44:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Fw: Re: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 Message-ID: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> --0-172476899-1269110669=:94954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian, I would agree with some of these points but not others. Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to t= he Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall runnin= g when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room.=20 With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to shift = up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes they = still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but= I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other = key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are go= ing. What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages of q= uestions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against thos= e frameworks. What isn't there? 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive management= solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers is not goo= d enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a professional assessm= ent system - not just be number crunchers. 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools is = held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going t= o bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search fu= nction that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals (:))= so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to do t= his - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and prop= rietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. Ther= e is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage oth= er than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into th= e dark ages. Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why is th= is not made more transparent? So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We do = that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde= at the moment as far as I'm concerned. So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and s= chools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a particularl= y dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force or t= he people observing activity around the teaching force, then things begin t= o happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, asse= ssment and examination. I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be aware= of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction betwee= n what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only gro= w wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffected= as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available. If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more releva= nt and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just have= to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what they= are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't wor= king - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something... Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are l= ooking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal comput= ers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Some ma= rvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams and = started their own companies... That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of tax = benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this country.= Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opportunity lo= st. If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination t= o do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fence = jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can expl= ore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal responsib= ility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one yet? = How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley contextualise= d and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - oh dear - yet= another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never mind the ban= ks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will pay back in= terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in terms of culture= and education although they are more than morally bound to do so...in the = meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intellectually too I wo= uld hazard a guess... The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to think = very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are getting = in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being because = we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century. The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more and = more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to what = people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit for p= urpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that are cul= de sacs when it comes to moving this country on. Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be mi= red in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its cha= llenges. And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when it = comes to Education? The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for a= retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't ri= ng-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of justifi= cations for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say these thin= gs - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... Leon Cych --- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith wrote: From: Brian Smith Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 To: advisory@talk.naace.org Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find=0A solutions. Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking = over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the = world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they need dat= alogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when they bu= y some technical Lego or a similar toy). The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum with= its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too many b= right people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; thei= r numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily.=A0 And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems mea= n that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there m= ay be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in.See w= hat he=0A showed at:=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVRi8_fXz1D8 So what's the solution?Needless to say I haven't a clue.But I do find that = Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate.Twitterfa= ll at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our sessions.Yo= u do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand and= many comments were being retweeted to a global network of people by an edu= cator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on Governmen= t and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and their ses= sions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average=0A classroom= . In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos f= rom BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teach= er on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this w= as his own account on his own laptop which he was using to receive news fro= m professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his child= ren without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given= this freedom because Twitpic is blocked. How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers can't= show them the benefits technology can bring? Unlock the WebMy instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0= with their classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But=A0the= starting point should be open access=0A and then lock down only as much as= necessary. Consider nursery and reception children for example.=A0Open access would be= so wrong for them.=A0Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on th= e whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. So how about this.=A0Consider the roads analogy.=A0 We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them shu= t indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut.=A0 But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety.=A0 We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating.=A0Not incessantly, jus= t every time a road needs to be crossed.=A0In between we are talking about = everything else. A suggestion:On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to s= afe sites for specific activities and have filters in place so they can't g= o ANYWHERE=0A else. But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class fil= ter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the 11= years old a lot more. AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. The t= eacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter or any = other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. Be= cause she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only ever acce= ss these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the bi= g screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with = a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and collabora= te as the teacher holds their hand. Just like on the road. As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet saf= ety training. And on=0A that subject, see these two articles:: A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety training: http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-m= ark/article-1812042-detail/article.html Managed rather than locked down: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference. What do you think? Brian Smith ---------------------------------------Disclaimers about how this is intend= ed for you and if you aren't you, let me know.Oh=0A and by the way, the con= tent *is* my opinion. --0-172476899-1269110669=:94954 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Brian,

I would agree with some of = these points but not others.

Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction ca= me into high relief in relation to the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it = unfair to have a Twitter Wall running when someone was unaware of the comme= nts going on in the room.

With Ofsted the problem has always been b= ean counting - they need to shift up a gear if they are not going to be mar= ginalised in the future. Yes they still have power to determine the paramet= ers by which to judge a school but I think they are beginning to woefully l= ose their way judged by the other key note contributors to the conference h= ave outlined the way things are going.

What happens currently is tha= t head teachers are given pages and pages of questions they have to answer = which are then summatively judged against those frameworks.

What isn= 't there?

1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere posi= tive management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely obser= vers is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a profe= ssional assessment system - not just be number crunchers.

2) No aggr= egation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools is held in an= y way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going to bean cou= nt then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search function tha= t aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals (:)) so it can= be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to do this - well= overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and proprietorial = so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. There is no co= mmutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage other than me= asure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of ins= pection - why is this not made more transparent?

So now we are expec= ted to take the communication out of ICT because "We do that well" and conc= entrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde at the moment as f= ar as I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of parameters that appea= r to be a comfort zone and schools will be judged against them. An immutabl= e tail wagging a particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doin= g in the teaching force or the people observing activity around the teachin= g force, then things begin to happen. People start to question the traditio= nal models of planning, assessment and examination.

I guess it is to= be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be aware of the possibil= ities of more recent social media or the disjunction between what is now ha= ppening in the home and the school. This gulf will only grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffected as techn= ology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available.

If y= ou want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more relevant a= nd interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just have to = do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what they are= if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't working= - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something...

Someti= mes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are looking= for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal computers an= d the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Some marvello= us programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams and starte= d their own companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledge= d by government in terms of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this country. Most of those companies have gone = to Canada ... yet another opportunity lost.

If you want people to do= stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination to do it, then devise som= ething more than just husks of proprietorial fence jumping for individuals.= Bring in collaborative exams where people can explore and work to their ta= lents - make peer assessment and personal responsibility ways in which you = can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one yet? How about a vibrant, ima= ginative, "fun" curriculum completley contextualised and relevant to the wa= ys we live our lives now. Guess not - oh dear - yet another fail...and for = the country as a whole as well...never mind the banks are beginning to be b= ack in profit not that any of them will pay back in terms of social capital= what they ruined as a knock on in terms of culture and education although = they are more than morally bound to do so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intellectually too I would hazard a gues= s...

The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we ne= ed to think very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they = are getting in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well be= ing because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.<= br>
The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach mo= re and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes t= o what people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fi= t for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that = are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on.

Sometimes I= feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be mired in conf= usion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its challenges.
And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years:

Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that = vision when it comes to Education?

The next few months will see cutb= acks and all sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective= models of "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a tragedy b= ecause it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision - i= f people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselves to bl= ame in the long run...

Leon Cych


--- On Sa= t, 20/3/10, Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com> wrote= :

From: Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com>
Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010=
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35
Following this year's conference, I'm struggl= ing to find=0A solutions.

Clearly Ofsted is still counti= ng that which can be counted and nit-picking over whether data-logging is b= eing 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the world's children are disengagi= ng from education en masse. (If they need datalogging they can pick it up i= n an hour - and probably most do when they buy some technical Lego or a sim= ilar toy).

The pressure to break the mould and thr= ow out the Victorian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is buildin= g towards bursting point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinso= n, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices = getting louder almost daily. 

And finally, Lo= rd Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems mean that if we do= n't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there may be no need f= or five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in.

So what's the solution?
<= div>Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But I do find that Web 2.0 = technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate.
Twitte= rfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our sessions= .
You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating i= n Thailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of pe= ople by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on G= overnment and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and t= heir sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

=
This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average= =0A classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allo= w my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative= Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twi= tter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using to rec= eive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reac= hed his children without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher,= wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is blocked.

=
How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers = can't show them the benefits technology can bring?

Unlock the Web
My instinct is to unlock the web and let t= eachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but that ignores Internet safety iss= ues.

The more I think about it the more I know tha= t it depends on age. But the starting point should be open access=0A a= nd then lock down only as much as necessary.

Consider nursery and re= ception children for example. Open access would be so wrong for them.&= nbsp;Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on the whiteboard is s= urely damaging the children's prospects.

So how ab= out this. 
Consider the roads analogy. 
We wouldn't = let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them shut indoors or= safe in the garden with the gate shut. 
But we also go out onto th= e roads with them so they learn road safety. 
We do it by constantl= y explaining and demonstrating. 
Not incessantly, just every= time a road needs to be crossed. 
In between we are talking= about everything else.

A suggestion:
On the net, t= hen, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for specific act= ivities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE=0A else.
But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class fi= lter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the 1= 1 years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the = children's access points. The teacher should have unfettered access so if s= he wants to use Twitter or any other social networking site - or MSN - or S= kype - or Ustream - she can. Because she won't let the children on that com= puter and she'll only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she m= ight have Twitterfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a p= articular lesson, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds betwe= en receipt and display.

Thus the children are safe but they also lea= rn to communicate and collaborate as the teacher holds their hand.
Just = like on the road.

As they grow older the filters come off but only w= ith adequate internet safety training.

And on=0A that subject, see t= hese two articles::

A school that's praised for less filtered access= with good safety training:
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.u= k/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/art= icle.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two day= s after conference.

What do you think?
<= br>
Brian Smith


---------= ------------------------------
Disclaimers about how this is inte= nded for you and if you aren't you, let me know.
Oh=0A and by the= way, the content *is* my opinion.
--0-172476899-1269110669=:94954-- From doug.dickinson@ntlworld.com Sat Mar 20 19:19:21 2010 From: doug.dickinson@ntlworld.com (Doug Dickinson) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:19:21 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <656247A0-553A-4089-A82D-38B21BFFFBB4@ntlworld.com> --Apple-Mail-1-895269335 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall ... Twitter is intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for all ... found myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt that I was being disrespectful ... didn't feel good Doug Dickinson Independent E-Learning Consultant doug@dougdickinson.co.uk Tel: 01509 265653 Mobile: 07889 712 208 Skype: dougjdickinson Web: www.dougdickinson.co.uk/blog ------- The creative spirit is a wild bird that will not sing in captivity - Van Dearing Perrine ------- "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a butterfly." "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." Buckminster Fuller ------ This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender does not accept legal responsibility for the content of this message. If the e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. On 20 Mar 2010, at 18:44, Leon Cych wrote: > > Brian, > > I would agree with some of these points but not others. > > Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in > relation to the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a > Twitter Wall running when someone was unaware of the comments going > on in the room. > > With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to > shift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the > future. Yes they still have power to determine the parameters by > which to judge a school but I think they are beginning to woefully > lose their way judged by the other key note contributors to the > conference have outlined the way things are going. > > What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and > pages of questions they have to answer which are then summatively > judged against those frameworks. > > What isn't there? > > 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive > management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely > observers is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as > part of a professional assessment system - not just be number > crunchers. > > 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to > schools is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. > If you are going to bean count then why not make it more > transparent. Have a useful search function that aggregated subjects, > schools, data, outcomes, school meals (:)) so it can be compared > like for like - where's the data back engine to do this - well > overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and > proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the > media. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no > desire to engage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we > see, are a retreat into the dark ages. > > Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - > why is this not made more transparent? > > So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because > "We do that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is > in retrograde at the moment as far as I'm concerned. > > So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort > zone and schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail > wagging a particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is > doing in the teaching force or the people observing activity around > the teaching force, then things begin to happen. People start to > question the traditional models of planning, assessment and > examination. > > I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to > be aware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the > disjunction between what is now happening in the home and the > school. This gulf will only grow wider - the school population and > parents become increasingly disaffected as technology will become > more ubiquitous and broadband more available. > > If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more > relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage > not just have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that > surely is what they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using > walking away. It just isn't working - saying people aren't engaging > should tell you something... > > Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight > you are looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early > personal computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the > back of that. Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot > of them bypassed exams and started their own companies... > > That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms > of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in > this country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet > another opportunity lost. > > If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses > imagination to do it, then devise something more than just husks of > proprietorial fence jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative > exams where people can explore and work to their talents - make peer > assessment and personal responsibility ways in which you can assess. > Anyone tried thinking of that one yet? How about a vibrant, > imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley contextualised and relevant > to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - oh dear - yet another > fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never mind the banks > are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will pay > back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in > terms of culture and education although they are more than morally > bound to do so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our > belts and intellectually too I would hazard a guess... > > The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to > think very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they > are getting in the way of actually adding to the country's economic > well being because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the > 21st century. > > The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach > more and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when > it comes to what people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some > cases. It's not fit for purpose - people are retreating into > 'curricular comfort zones' that are cul de sacs when it comes to > moving this country on. > > Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going > to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century > and all its challenges. > > And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: > > Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision > when it comes to Education? > > The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of > justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of > "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a tragedy > because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of > vision - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we > have ourselves to blame in the long run... > > Leon Cych > > > --- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith wrote: > > From: Brian Smith > Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 > To: advisory@talk.naace.org > Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 > > Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. > > Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit- > picking over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In > the meantime the world's children are disengaging from education en > masse. (If they need datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - > and probably most do when they buy some technical Lego or a similar > toy). > > The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian > curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards > bursting point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, > Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their > voices getting louder almost daily. > > And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global > problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - > and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll > be no world to live in. > See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRi8_fXz1D8 > > So what's the solution? > Needless to say I haven't a clue. > But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem- > solve and debate. > Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to > our sessions. > You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in > Thailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network > of people by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. > > TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on > Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas > - and their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. > > This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average > classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't > allow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an > innovative Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year- > olds accessing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop > which he was using to receive news from professional educators > attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his children without being > filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this > freedom because Twitpic is blocked. > > How can children become the "people we need" when even their > teachers can't show them the benefits technology can bring? > > Unlock the Web > My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with > their classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. > > The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. > But the starting point should be open access and then lock down only > as much as necessary. > > Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access > would be so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put > Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the children's > prospects. > > So how about this. > Consider the roads analogy. > We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep > them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. > But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. > We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating. > Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed. > In between we are talking about everything else. > > A suggestion: > On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe > sites for specific activities and have filters in place so they > can't go ANYWHERE else. > > But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a > class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more > flexibility and the 11 years old a lot more. > > AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access > points. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to > use Twitter or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype > - or Ustream - she can. Because she won't let the children on that > computer and she'll only ever access these sites as part of a > lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the big screen for a > particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with a TA > monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. > > Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and > collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. > Just like on the road. > > As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate > internet safety training. > > And on that subject, see these two articles:: > > A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety > training: > http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html > > Managed rather than locked down: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm > > > So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after > conference. > > What do you think? > > Brian Smith > > > --------------------------------------- > Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't > you, let me know. > Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion. --Apple-Mail-1-895269335 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Totally agree with the comment = about the Twitter wall ... Twitter is intended as a back-channel, not as = a running commentary for all ... found myself tweeting my thoughts as i = would normally but then felt that I was being disrespectful ... didn't = feel good

=
Doug = Dickinson
Independent E-Learning Consultant
doug@dougdickinson.co.uk
Tel: 01509 265653
Mobile: 07889 712 208
Skype: = dougjdickinson
=

On 20 Mar 2010, at = 18:44, Leon Cych wrote:


Brian,

I would agree = with some of these points but not others.

Certainly Ofsted's lack = of direction came into high relief in relation to the Twitter Wall. But = somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall running when someone was = unaware of the comments going on in the room.

With Ofsted the = problem has always been bean counting - they need to shift up a gear if = they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes they still have = power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but I think = they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other key = note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are = going.

What happens currently is that head teachers are given = pages and pages of questions they have to answer which are then = summatively judged against those frameworks.

What isn't = there?

1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere = positive management solutions - having an inspection force who are = merely observers is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as = part of a professional assessment system - not just be number = crunchers.

2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove = useful to schools is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted = site. If you are going to bean count then why not make it more = transparent. Have a useful search function that aggregated subjects, = schools, data, outcomes, school meals (:)) so it can be compared like = for like - where's the data back engine to do this - well overdue I = would think or is it merely just to be hidden and proprietorial so that = dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. There is no = commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage other = than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into = the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns = of inspection - why is this not made more transparent?

So now we = are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We do that = well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde = at the moment as far as I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of = parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and schools will be judged = against them. An immutable tail wagging a particularly dozy dog. When = the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force or the people = observing activity around the teaching force, then things begin to = happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, = assessment and examination.

I guess it is to be expected Ofsted = and QCDA appear to not seem to be aware of the possibilities of more = recent social media or the disjunction between what is now happening in = the home and the school. This gulf will only grow wider - the school = population and parents become increasingly disaffected as technology = will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available.

If you = want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more relevant = and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just have = to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what = they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just = isn't working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you = something...

Sometimes unintended consequences cause the = education and insight you are looking for. With programming it was the = coming of the early personal computers and the games written by amateurs = at home off the back of that. Some marvellous programmers emerged from = that - al lot of them bypassed exams and started their own = companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by = government in terms of tax benefits even though they make more than the = film industry in this country. Most of those companies have gone to = Canada ... yet another opportunity lost.

If you want people to do = stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination to do it, then devise = something more than just husks of proprietorial fence jumping for = individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can explore and = work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal responsibility = ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one yet? How = about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley contextualised = and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - oh dear - = yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never mind = the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will = pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in = terms of culture and education although they are more than morally bound = to do so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and = intellectually too I would hazard a guess...

The one big topic I = took away from the conference is that we need to think very carefully = about assessment and exams - in some cases they are getting in the way = of actually adding to the country's economic well being because we lack = vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.

The system = we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more and more = efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to what = people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit = for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that = are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country = on.

Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are = going to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st = Century and all its challenges.

And I'll ask it again as I have = done over the years:

Where is the vision and where is the courage = to follow that vision when it comes to Education?

The next few = months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for a retreat = into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't = ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of = justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say = these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long = run...

Leon Cych


--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com&= gt; wrote:

From: Brian = Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com&= gt;
Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Dat= e: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35

Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to = find solutions.

Clearly Ofsted is still counting that = which can be counted and nit-picking over whether data-logging is being = 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the world's children are disengaging = from education en masse. (If they need datalogging they can pick it up = in an hour - and probably most do when they buy some technical Lego or a = similar toy).

The pressure to break the mould = and throw out the Victorian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime = is building towards bursting point. Too many bright people are saying = it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; their numbers are growing = and their voices getting louder almost = daily. 

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film = showed that increasing global problems mean that if we don't create a = 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there may be no need for five = A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in.

So what's the = solution?
Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But = I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve = and debate.
Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a = global audience to our sessions.
You do realise, don't you, = that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand and many comments were = being retweeted to a global network of people by an educator in Ecuador. = That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real = chalk-face practitioners turning their back on Government and Ofsted and = getting together to share innovative ideas - and their sessions were = streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

This = global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. In = its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos = from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 = teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter = - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using to = receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. = Nothing reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even = he, as a teacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is = blocked.

How can children become the "people we = need" when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology = can bring?

Unlock the Web
My = instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their = classes but that ignores Internet safety = issues.

The more I think about it the more I = know that it depends on age. But the starting point should be open = access and then lock down only as much as necessary.

Consider = nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be so = wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on = the whiteboard is surely damaging the children's = prospects.

So how about = this. 
Consider the roads analogy. 
We wouldn't = let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them shut indoors = or safe in the garden with the gate shut. 
But we also go out = onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. 
We do it by = constantly explaining and demonstrating. 
Not = incessantly, just every time a road needs to be = crossed. 
In between we are talking about everything = else.

A suggestion:
On the net, then, I think we = should direct young children to safe sites for specific activities and = have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE else.

But not a = county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class filter = because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the 11 = years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the = children's access points. The teacher should have unfettered access so = if she wants to use Twitter or any other social networking site - or MSN = - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. Because she won't let the children on = that computer and she'll only ever access these sites as part of a = lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the big screen for a particular = purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with a TA monitoring content = in the seconds between receipt and display.

Thus the children are = safe but they also learn to communicate and collaborate as the teacher = holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As they grow older = the filters come off but only with adequate internet safety = training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A = school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety = training:
http://www.thisisplymout= h.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-det= ail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bbc.= co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after = conference.

What do you = think?

Brian = Smith


----------------------------= -----------
Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and = if you aren't you, let me know.
Oh and by the way, the content = *is* my = opinion.

= --Apple-Mail-1-895269335-- From theo.kuechel@googlemail.com Sat Mar 20 19:37:44 2010 From: theo.kuechel@googlemail.com (theo kuechel) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:37:44 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: <656247A0-553A-4089-A82D-38B21BFFFBB4@ntlworld.com> References: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <656247A0-553A-4089-A82D-38B21BFFFBB4@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: --0016e6d6455917ba18048240996f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the moment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable. I think we should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report to those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the question session in a talk. This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.htm It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes threatning to speakers. best Theo On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickinson wrote: > Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall ... Twitter is > intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for all ... found > myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt that I was > being disrespectful ... didn't feel good > > Doug Dickinson > Independent E-Learning Consultant > doug@dougdickinson.co.uk > Tel: 01509 265653 > Mobile: 07889 712 208 > Skype: dougjdickinson > Web: www.dougdickinson.co.uk/blog > ------- > The creative spirit is a wild bird that will not sing in captivity - Van > Dearing Perrine > ------- > "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a > butterfly." > > "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change > something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." > > Buckminster Fuller > ------ > > This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its > contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the > intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the > sender does not accept legal responsibility for the content of this > message. If the e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any > attachments. > > On 20 Mar 2010, at 18:44, Leon Cych wrote: > > > Brian, > > I would agree with some of these points but not others. > > Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to > the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall > running when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room. > > With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to shift > up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes they > still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but > I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other > key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are > going. > > What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages of > questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against > those frameworks. > > What isn't there? > > 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive management > solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers is not good > enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a professional assessment > system - not just be number crunchers. > > 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools is > held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going to > bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search > function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals > (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to > do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and > proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. > There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage > other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into > the dark ages. > > Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why is > this not made more transparent? > > So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We do > that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde > at the moment as far as I'm concerned. > > So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and > schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a > particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching > force or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then > things begin to happen. People start to question the traditional models of > planning, assessment and examination. > > I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be aware > of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction between > what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only grow > wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffected as > technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available. > > If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more > relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just > have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what > they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't > working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something... > > Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are > looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal > computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. > Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed > exams and started their own companies... > > That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of tax > benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this country. > Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opportunity > lost. > > If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination > to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fence > jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can > explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal > responsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that > one yet? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley > contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - > oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never > mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will > pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in terms > of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to do > so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and > intellectually too I would hazard a guess... > > The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to think > very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are getting > in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being because > we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century. > > The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more and > more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to what > people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit for > purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that are cul > de sacs when it comes to moving this country on. > > Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be > mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its > challenges. > > And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: > > Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when it > comes to Education? > > The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for a > retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't > ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of > justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say > these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... > > Leon Cych > > > > --- On *Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith * wrote: > > > From: Brian Smith > Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 > To: advisory@talk.naace.org > Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 > > Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. > > Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking > over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the > world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they need > datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when they > buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). > > The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum with > its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too many > bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; > their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily. > > And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems > mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there > may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in. > See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRi8_fXz1D8 > > *So what's the solution?* > Needless to say I haven't a clue. > But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve > and debate. > Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our > sessions. > You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand > and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of people by an > educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. > > TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on > Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and > their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. > > This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. > In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos from > BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teacher on > Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this was his > own account on his own laptop which he was using to receive news from > professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his children > without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this > freedom because Twitpic is blocked. > > How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers can't > show them the benefits technology can bring? > > *Unlock the Web* > My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their > classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. > > The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But the > starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much as > necessary. > > Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be > so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on the > whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. > > So how about this. > Consider the roads analogy. > We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them > shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. > But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. > We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating. > Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed. > In between we are talking about everything else. > > *A suggestion:* > On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for > specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE > else. > > But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class > filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the > 11 years old a lot more. > > AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. The > teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter or any > other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. > Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only ever > access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the > big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with > a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. > > Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and > collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. > Just like on the road. > > As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet > safety training. > > And on that subject, see these two articles:: > > A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety training: > > http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html > > Managed rather than locked down: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm > > > So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference. > > What do you think? > > Brian Smith > > > --------------------------------------- > Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't you, let > me know. > Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion. > > > -- Theo Kuechel Learning Technology Research theo.kuechel@gmail.com T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk --0016e6d6455917ba18048240996f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the mo= ment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable.=A0 I think w= e should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report t= o those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the = question session in a talk.

This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues
http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.ht= m

It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes= threatning to speakers.

best
Theo

On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickinson <doug.dickinson@ntlworld.com>= wrote:
Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall = ... Twitter is intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for = all ... found myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt= that I was being disrespectful ... didn't feel good

Doug Dickinson
Independent E-Learning Consult= ant
Tel: 01509 265653
Mobile:= 07889 712 208
Skype: dougjdickinson
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"There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you= it's going to be a butterfly."=A0

"= You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change somethi= ng, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."

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On 20 = Mar 2010, at 18:44, Leon Cych wrote:


B= rian,

I would agree with some of these points but not others.

Certainl= y Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to the T= witter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall running wh= en someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room.

With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to sh= ift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes t= hey still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school= but I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the ot= her key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things ar= e going.

What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages = of questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against = those frameworks.

What isn't there?

1) Any formative syst= em of assessment that could offere positive management solutions - having a= n inspection force who are merely observers is not good enough - they need = to be made to engage as part of a professional assessment system - not just= be number crunchers.

2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools= is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are goi= ng to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful searc= h function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals = (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine= to do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden = and proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the med= ia. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to en= gage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat= into the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why i= s this not made more transparent?

So now we are expected to take the= communication out of ICT because "We do that well" and concentra= te on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde at the moment as far as= I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone a= nd schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a particu= larly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force = or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then things beg= in to happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, = assessment and examination.

I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be a= ware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction be= tween what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only= grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffe= cted as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available= .

If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more re= levant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just = have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what = they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn&#= 39;t working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something.= ..

Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you a= re looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal co= mputers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Som= e marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams = and started their own companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms= of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this = country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opport= unity lost.

If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imaginati= on to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fe= nce jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can = explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal respo= nsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one y= et? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley= contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not -= oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...neve= r mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them wi= ll pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in te= rms of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to d= o so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intel= lectually too I would hazard a guess...

The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to th= ink very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are gett= ing in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being = because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.

The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more = and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to w= hat people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not f= it for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones&#= 39; that are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on.

Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going = to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all= its challenges.

And I'll ask it again as I have done over the y= ears:

Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when= it comes to Education?

The next few months will see cutbacks and al= l sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of = "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a traged= y because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision = - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselve= s to blame in the long run...

Leon Cych


--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com><= /b> wrote:

From: Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com>
Subject: [Advisory] Af= ter #Naace2010
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35

Following this year's= conference, I'm struggling to find solutions.

Clear= ly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking over = whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime t= he world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they n= eed datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when = they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy).

The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victo= rian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursti= ng point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott,= David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder a= lmost daily.=A0

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increa= sing global problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century curric= ulum - and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'= ;ll be no world to live in.

So what's the solution= ?
Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But I do find that Web= 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate.
T= witterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our ses= sions.
You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in T= hailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of peopl= e by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back o= n Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - an= d their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the avera= ge classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't a= llow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovat= ive Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds access= ing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using= to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothi= ng reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a t= eacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is blocked.

How can children become the "people we need" = when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology can br= ing?

Unlock the Web
My instinct i= s to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but tha= t ignores Internet safety issues.

The more I think about it the more I know that it depen= ds on age. But=A0the starting point should be open access and then lock dow= n only as much as necessary.

Consider nursery and reception children= for example.=A0Open access would be so wrong for them.=A0Yet a primary tea= cher who can't put Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the= children's prospects.

So how about this.=A0
Consider the roads anal= ogy.=A0
We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so w= e keep them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut.=A0
Bu= t we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety.=A0
We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating.=A0
Not inces= santly, just every time a road needs to be crossed.=A0
In between= we are talking about everything else.

A suggestion:
On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for= specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHER= E else.

But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to= be a class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibi= lity and the 11 years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access point= s. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter= or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she= can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'l= l only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitt= erfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesso= n, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and = display.

Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and colla= borate as the teacher holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As= they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet safet= y training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A school that'= s praised for less filtered access with good safety training:
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety= -mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bb= c.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


<= div> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference.

What do you think?

Brian S= mith


------------------------------= ---------
Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't y= ou, let me know.
Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion.<= /div>

<= /blockquote>



--
Theo Kuechel
Learning= Technology Research =A0
theo.= kuechel@gmail.com
T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk

--0016e6d6455917ba18048240996f-- From theo.kuechel@googlemail.com Sat Mar 20 19:39:53 2010 From: theo.kuechel@googlemail.com (theo kuechel) Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:39:53 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: References: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <656247A0-553A-4089-A82D-38B21BFFFBB4@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: --0016e6d78546c720a7048240a0e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Corrected Link http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.html On 20 March 2010 19:37, theo kuechel wrote: > I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the > moment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable. I think we > should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report to > those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the > question session in a talk. > > This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues > http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.htm > > It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes > threatning to speakers. > > best > Theo > > > On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickinson wrote: > >> Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall ... Twitter is >> intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for all ... found >> myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt that I was >> being disrespectful ... didn't feel good >> >> Doug Dickinson >> Independent E-Learning Consultant >> doug@dougdickinson.co.uk >> Tel: 01509 265653 >> Mobile: 07889 712 208 >> Skype: dougjdickinson >> Web: www.dougdickinson.co.uk/blog >> ------- >> The creative spirit is a wild bird that will not sing in captivity - Van >> Dearing Perrine >> ------- >> "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a >> butterfly." >> >> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change >> something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." >> >> Buckminster Fuller >> ------ >> >> This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its >> contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the >> intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the >> sender does not accept legal responsibility for the content of this >> message. If the e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any >> attachments. >> >> On 20 Mar 2010, at 18:44, Leon Cych wrote: >> >> >> Brian, >> >> I would agree with some of these points but not others. >> >> Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to >> the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall >> running when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room. >> >> With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to shift >> up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes they >> still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but >> I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other >> key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are >> going. >> >> What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages of >> questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against >> those frameworks. >> >> What isn't there? >> >> 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive >> management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers >> is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a >> professional assessment system - not just be number crunchers. >> >> 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools is >> held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going to >> bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search >> function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals >> (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to >> do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and >> proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. >> There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage >> other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into >> the dark ages. >> >> Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why is >> this not made more transparent? >> >> So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We do >> that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde >> at the moment as far as I'm concerned. >> >> So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and >> schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a >> particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching >> force or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then >> things begin to happen. People start to question the traditional models of >> planning, assessment and examination. >> >> I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be >> aware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction >> between what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will >> only grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly >> disaffected as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more >> available. >> >> If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more >> relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just >> have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what >> they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't >> working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something... >> >> Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are >> looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal >> computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. >> Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed >> exams and started their own companies... >> >> That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of tax >> benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this country. >> Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opportunity >> lost. >> >> If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination >> to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fence >> jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can >> explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal >> responsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that >> one yet? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley >> contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - >> oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never >> mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will >> pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in terms >> of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to do >> so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and >> intellectually too I would hazard a guess... >> >> The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to think >> very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are getting >> in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being because >> we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century. >> >> The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more and >> more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to what >> people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit for >> purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that are cul >> de sacs when it comes to moving this country on. >> >> Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be >> mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its >> challenges. >> >> And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: >> >> Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when it >> comes to Education? >> >> The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for >> a retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't >> ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of >> justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say >> these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... >> >> Leon Cych >> >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith * wrote: >> >> >> From: Brian Smith >> Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 >> To: advisory@talk.naace.org >> Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 >> >> Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. >> >> Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking >> over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the >> world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they need >> datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when they >> buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). >> >> The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum >> with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too >> many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; >> their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily. >> >> And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems >> mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there >> may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in. >> See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRi8_fXz1D8 >> >> *So what's the solution?* >> Needless to say I haven't a clue. >> But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve >> and debate. >> Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our >> sessions. >> You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand >> and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of people by an >> educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. >> >> TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on >> Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and >> their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. >> >> This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. >> In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos from >> BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teacher on >> Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this was his >> own account on his own laptop which he was using to receive news from >> professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his children >> without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this >> freedom because Twitpic is blocked. >> >> How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers >> can't show them the benefits technology can bring? >> >> *Unlock the Web* >> My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their >> classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. >> >> The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But the >> starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much as >> necessary. >> >> Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be >> so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on the >> whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. >> >> So how about this. >> Consider the roads analogy. >> We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them >> shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. >> But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. >> We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating. >> Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed. >> In between we are talking about everything else. >> >> *A suggestion:* >> On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites >> for specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE >> else. >> >> But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class >> filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the >> 11 years old a lot more. >> >> AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. The >> teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter or any >> other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. >> Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only ever >> access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the >> big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with >> a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. >> >> Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and >> collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. >> Just like on the road. >> >> As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet >> safety training. >> >> And on that subject, see these two articles:: >> >> A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety >> training: >> >> http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html >> >> Managed rather than locked down: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm >> >> >> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Brian Smith >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't you, let >> me know. >> Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion. >> >> >> > > > -- > Theo Kuechel > Learning Technology Research > theo.kuechel@gmail.com > T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk > > > -- Theo Kuechel Learning Technology Research theo.kuechel@gmail.com T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk --0016e6d78546c720a7048240a0e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Corrected Link=A0 http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009= /11/24/spectacle_at_we.html

On 20 Mar= ch 2010 19:37, theo kuechel <theo.kuechel@googlemail.com> wrote:
I think Leon and = Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the moment of the Twitt= er wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable.=A0 I think we should all agre= e it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report to those not physi= cally present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the question session = in a talk.

This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/= spectacle_at_we.htm

It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes= threatning to speakers.

best
Theo


On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickins= on <doug.dickinson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall = ... Twitter is intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for = all ... found myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt= that I was being disrespectful ... didn't feel good

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On 20 Mar 2010, at = 18:44, Leon Cych wrote:


Brian,

I would agree with some of these points but not others.

Certainl= y Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to the T= witter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall running wh= en someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room.

With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to sh= ift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes t= hey still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school= but I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the ot= her key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things ar= e going.

What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages = of questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against = those frameworks.

What isn't there?

1) Any formative syst= em of assessment that could offere positive management solutions - having a= n inspection force who are merely observers is not good enough - they need = to be made to engage as part of a professional assessment system - not just= be number crunchers.

2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools= is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are goi= ng to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful searc= h function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals = (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine= to do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden = and proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the med= ia. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to en= gage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat= into the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why i= s this not made more transparent?

So now we are expected to take the= communication out of ICT because "We do that well" and concentra= te on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde at the moment as far as= I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone a= nd schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a particu= larly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force = or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then things beg= in to happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, = assessment and examination.

I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be a= ware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction be= tween what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only= grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffe= cted as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available= .

If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more re= levant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just = have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what = they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn&#= 39;t working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something.= ..

Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you a= re looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal co= mputers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Som= e marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams = and started their own companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms= of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this = country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opport= unity lost.

If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imaginati= on to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fe= nce jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can = explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal respo= nsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one y= et? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley= contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not -= oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...neve= r mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them wi= ll pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in te= rms of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to d= o so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intel= lectually too I would hazard a guess...

The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to th= ink very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are gett= ing in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being = because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.

The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more = and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to w= hat people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not f= it for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones&#= 39; that are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on.

Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going = to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all= its challenges.

And I'll ask it again as I have done over the y= ears:

Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when= it comes to Education?

The next few months will see cutbacks and al= l sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of = "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a traged= y because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision = - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselve= s to blame in the long run...

Leon Cych


--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com><= /b> wrote:

From: Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com>
Subject: [Advisory] Af= ter #Naace2010
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35

Following this year's= conference, I'm struggling to find solutions.

Clear= ly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking over = whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime t= he world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they n= eed datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when = they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy).

The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victo= rian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursti= ng point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott,= David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder a= lmost daily.=A0

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increa= sing global problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century curric= ulum - and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'= ;ll be no world to live in.

So what's the solution= ?
Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But I do find that Web= 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate.
T= witterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our ses= sions.
You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in T= hailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of peopl= e by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back o= n Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - an= d their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the avera= ge classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't a= llow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovat= ive Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds access= ing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using= to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothi= ng reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a t= eacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is blocked.

How can children become the "people we need" = when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology can br= ing?

Unlock the Web
My instinct i= s to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but tha= t ignores Internet safety issues.

The more I think about it the more I know that it depen= ds on age. But=A0the starting point should be open access and then lock dow= n only as much as necessary.

Consider nursery and reception children= for example.=A0Open access would be so wrong for them.=A0Yet a primary tea= cher who can't put Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the= children's prospects.

So how about this.=A0
Consider the roads anal= ogy.=A0
We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so w= e keep them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut.=A0
Bu= t we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety.=A0
We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating.=A0
Not inces= santly, just every time a road needs to be crossed.=A0
In between= we are talking about everything else.

A suggestion:
On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for= specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHER= E else.

But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to= be a class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibi= lity and the 11 years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access point= s. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter= or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she= can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'l= l only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitt= erfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesso= n, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and = display.

Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and colla= borate as the teacher holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As= they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet safet= y training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A school that'= s praised for less filtered access with good safety training:
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety= -mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bb= c.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


<= div> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference.

What do you think?

Brian S= mith


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Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't y= ou, let me know.
Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion.<= /div>

<= /blockquote>



--
Theo Kuechel
Learning Technology Research =A0
theo.kuechel@gmail.com=
T.Kuechel@hull.ac= .uk





--
Theo Kuechel
= Learning Technology Research =A0
theo.kuechel@gmail.com
T.= Kuechel@hull.ac.uk


--0016e6d78546c720a7048240a0e9-- From csmith@csmith.info Sun Mar 21 04:16:49 2010 From: csmith@csmith.info (Chris Smith) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:16:49 +0700 Subject: [Advisory] REPLY: Backchanneling (after #naace2010) In-Reply-To: <20100320194000.14032.21440.Mailman@mx4.rmplc.co.uk> References: <20100320194000.14032.21440.Mailman@mx4.rmplc.co.uk> Message-ID: I started using backchanneling during workshops/meetings back in the summer of 2007 when I first entered the virtual world of Second Life. It took a while to get accustomed to the multitasking aspects that this required whether as a presenter, facilitator or participant. Now ... with online CPD, backchanneling has become an integral part of how I work in VWs and webinars. In the last year this strategy has also become integral in my real life events ... it has taken me some time to become comfortable with these new opportunities ... (as a presenter, facilitator, student or participant.) I'm not surprised to see the comments about concerns using Twitter as a backchannel at naace2010 ... it is a evolutionary tool and feel that presenters will make full use of this new collaborative opportunity as they become more skilled and comfortable themselves. Many of my preferred backchannel tools have more functionality than Twitter and so do engage participants into the experience rather than being limited to 140 characters. The list of my preferred backchannel tools that I'm using now can be seen in the bottom left corner of the Shambles home page http://shambles.net A fuller list of backchannel tools can be seen at http://www.shambles.net/pages/staff/BCtools/ Backchannel tips, guidance and experiences can be seen at http://www.shambles.net/pages/staff/BCtips/ For the record ... I did drop into the naace2010 Twitter stream a few times ... although not from Thailand but from the Philippines where I am all this week ... it really is a global collaborative world and no longer depends on geographical location ... although the weather is a LOT warmer here ;-) Hope this is helpful Now back to the frontchannel ;-) Have fun Chris Second Life: Shamblesguru Voom Twitter: shamblesguru Skype: cthsmith ePortfolio www.shambles.net/csmith w-shops www.shambles.net/csmith/workshops ----------------------------------------------------------- Chris Smith : email: csmith@csmith.info Personal Learning Network: www.shambles.net/csmith/pln YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/shamblesguru Google Wave: shambles.guru@googlewave.com Based in Thailand, working across S.E.Asia The Education Project Asia www.shambles.net Support for ICT across the Curriculum (consultancy) 'It's out there somewhere, the trick is finding it' ----------------------------------------------------------- International Schools Island in Second Life Indexing S.L. for Educators in S.L. itself SLURL http://tinyurl.com/2o44dw ----------------------------------------------------------- From ianrlynch@googlemail.com Sun Mar 21 09:06:24 2010 From: ianrlynch@googlemail.com (Ian Lynch) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:06:24 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: <48E31D83-35C9-447A-B910-E65C00F5C3ED@briansmithonline.com> References: <310045.42898.qm@web27506.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <197174305B214FFB908C61D7A7EB194B@open.ac.uk> <48E31D83-35C9-447A-B910-E65C00F5C3ED@briansmithonline.com> Message-ID: > Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking > over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. I think that the real issue about data logging is that it is an indicator of whether science teachers are using up to date methods in science teaching. I don't think the requirement for experience of data-logging or even control tech are bad things in a NC, but they should be contextualised in science and DT. In the meantime the > world's children are disengaging from education en masse. Hm, some in developing countries will walk miles every day to get any sort of education so I think this is more an issue for increasingly disengaged Western children. (If they need > datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when they > buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). You could say that about just about any bit of IT if you assume all children get this entitlement. I bet there is at least a significant minority that never get to touch technical lego. It's about an entitlement curriculum. And technical lego is more about control technology than data logging and measurement. > The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum with > its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too many > bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; > their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily. I don't see how you equate a Victorian curriculum to data-logging. An out-dated fixation on tests with children sitting at desks in rows, I agree is out-dated, but that is a completely different issue. > So what's the solution? > Needless to say I haven't a clue. Ok, here is one possibility. We start with recognising and rewarding children's achievements as the main premise for motivation, we scrap key stages because they are incompatible with personalised learning and focus on attainment of individuals irrespective of their age. We provide incentives for teachers and children to migrate from desktop applications to Web 2.0 as a means of presenting their work, communicating with one another and learning how to learn from sources of information freely available on the web. We encourage international projects where learners work together to produce their own learning resources. We can use the quality of those produced as indicators of attainment rather tan test results. We provide support for Open Source and free applications that support this. (There are more than enough to choose from). A small fraction of the 500 million plus that was squandered on curriculum on-line is used to provide full and coherent support of the National Curriculum on-line covering all subjects 5-16. This is linked to a manageable teacher led assessment for learning strategy that provides children with certificates and badges to recognise their achievements in every subject at every level scrapping the current NC and using the broader levels of the new QCF. This is further supported with national regional competitions for children to encourage and reward outstanding efforts and achievements with prizes and celebrations. The emphasis is switched to personalised learning backed by the on-line resources and a national priority to support teacher training to enable the new methods that would be required with an initial focus on the internet as a learning platform. Formal controlled testing in English and Maths only but that can be at any time the learner is deemed to be ready by their teachers, done by level, not by age. Other subjects are graded by evidence from e-portfolios, teacher witness statements and direct criteria matching as part of the assessment for learning process. But let's not just talk about it, why not make a start doing it? That is why I set up a new Awarding Organisation. It's a mammoth task, but working some way towards it is at least better than getting nowhere at all. > My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their > classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. > The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But the > starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much as > necessary. If we don't allow children to work in realistic environments that they use outside we are abdicating responsibility for proper learning about being safe. Ok, it might help protect against getting sued but is that more important than real learning? > A suggestion: > On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for > specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE > else. COL 500 million would have gone a long way to ensure many, many safe sites containing content at a reasonable level across the entire NC. A missed opportunity no-one seems to bother about but given the coming financial crisis it's unlikely to get repeated. I don't see much evidence of any real vision in the political parties coming up to the election, so all I can do personally is soldier on and use my knowledge of the system to try and initiate some changes within what it allows. Ironically I see more potential for change in some of the developing countries I visit. he UK is far too over-engineered and complicated. What is required is rationalisation not more complexity. Unpicking the bureaucracy is difficult as there are very many vested interests in keeping it. From ianrlynch@googlemail.com Sun Mar 21 09:18:59 2010 From: ianrlynch@googlemail.com (Ian Lynch) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:18:59 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: <656247A0-553A-4089-A82D-38B21BFFFBB4@ntlworld.com> References: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <656247A0-553A-4089-A82D-38B21BFFFBB4@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: --000e0cd1fb04126da304824c1279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > ------- > "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a > butterfly." > Actually, there is, its DNA :-) --000e0cd1fb04126da304824c1279 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Actually, there is, its DNA :-)
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--000e0cd1fb04126da304824c1279-- From ianrlynch@googlemail.com Sun Mar 21 09:20:24 2010 From: ianrlynch@googlemail.com (Ian Lynch) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:20:24 +0000 Subject: Fw: Re: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 In-Reply-To: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --00151758fb9e288ee004824c170f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for a > retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't > ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of > justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say > these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... > On the other hand, it might force people to think more carefully about getting value for money and why rationalisation might be a good thing. Technology has the potential to save significant amounts and also to cost a fortune. I run an entire company without needing to pay anything on software licenses - but I invested a fair bit of my personal resources in "life-long learning" early on so now I can reap the benefits. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance :-). It also reinforces why learning about the technologies as well as with them has clear value. > --00151758fb9e288ee004824c170f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education= isn't ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run...

On the other hand, it might force people to think more carefully about getting value for money and why rationalisation might be a good thing. Technology has the potential to save significant amounts and also to cost a fortune.=A0 I run an entire company without needing to pay anything on software licenses - but I invested a fair bit of my personal resources in "life-long learning" early on so now I can = reap the benefits. If you think education is expensive, try ignorance :-). It also reinforces why learning about the technologies as well as with them has clear value.



=
--00151758fb9e288ee004824c170f-- From mike@new-media-learning.org Sun Mar 21 21:08:20 2010 From: mike@new-media-learning.org (Mike Bostock) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:08:20 -0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010- Ofsted In-Reply-To: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <994406.94954.qm@web86604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003801cac93a$a4099ce0$ec1cd6a0$@org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CAC93A.A4099CE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear All, I very much like Leon's suggestions about Ofsted inspection. Like many, I am concerned that so many members of the teaching profession have become disenchanted with Ofsted. A lot has changed since the days when HMI visits were the vehicle for monitoring the work of schools; the respect that they commanded, and the great skill that they had of promoting change by asking perceptive questions. Some of this decline is to do with changes that have been made in recent times, but not effectively communicated to schools. Ofsted has admitted that it has raised its expectations. It has also altered the way that it uses data. It hasn't really justified this so far beyond a couple of articles in the press. I think there should be more of a debate on these issues so that people don't think that the principles of school inspection are being made up on the hoof. But, as a fundamental consideration, inspection without any accompanying development implies that the sole reason for inspection is accountability, whereas I would argue that the main purpose should be improvement. I like the suggestion that Ofsted should make their evidence base more available as a resource for school development. Ofsted do produce some very good publications. I rate one particularly highly. It is 'Twelve outstanding secondary schools - Excelling against the odds' http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/Ofsted-home/Publications-and-research/Browse-all-by /Documents-by-type/Thematic-reports/Twelve-outstanding-secondary-schools-Exc elling-against-the-odds There is so much here to set out the characteristics of schools in which you will find our very best teachers and very best school leaders. Forget what league tables say. There is actually a huge need to provide an opportunity for a debate on how Ofsted compares schools with very differing pupil profiles, say a selective school in a nice area, with an inner city secondary with a high percentage of disadvantaged pupils. If the inspection system always favours the former then something is very wrong. John Dunford said of this that "A good school serving a challenging area should have the same chance of a high grade as a good school serving a less difficult area." I believe that this will be the test of whether Ofsted is doing the job that is needed. I think that more could be done to help schools understand the process of evaluation. There are many such resources as the above that could do much to support some regional or national one day events in this area. I have tried to get my own thoughts together on issues to do with inspection and the use of performance data in my first attempt at blogging. So a plug is here for the interested - they will join the 1000+ visitors who have already had a look at http://mikebostock.wordpress.com Regards Mike Bostock From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] On Behalf Of Leon Cych Sent: 20 March 2010 18:44 To: advisory@talk.naace.org Subject: Fw: Re: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 Brian, I would agree with some of these points but not others. Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall running when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room. With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to shift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes they still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are going. What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages of questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against those frameworks. What isn't there? 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a professional assessment system - not just be number crunchers. 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into the dark ages. Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why is this not made more transparent? So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We do that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde at the moment as far as I'm concerned. So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then things begin to happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, assessment and examination. I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be aware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction between what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffected as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available. If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something... Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams and started their own companies... That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opportunity lost. If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fence jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal responsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one yet? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in terms of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to do so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intellectually too I would hazard a guess... The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to think very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are getting in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century. The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to what people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on. Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its challenges. And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when it comes to Education? The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... Leon Cych --- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith wrote: From: Brian Smith Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 To: advisory@talk.naace.org Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they need datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily. And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in. See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRi8_fXz1D8 So what's the solution? Needless to say I haven't a clue. But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate. Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our sessions. You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of people by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is blocked. How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology can bring? Unlock the Web My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But the starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much as necessary. Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. So how about this. Consider the roads analogy. We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating. Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed. In between we are talking about everything else. A suggestion: On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE else. But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the 11 years old a lot more. AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. Just like on the road. As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet safety training. And on that subject, see these two articles:: A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety training: http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-ma rk/article-1812042-detail/article.html Managed rather than locked down: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference. What do you think? Brian Smith --------------------------------------- Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't you, let me know. Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CAC93A.A4099CE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear All,

I very much like Leon’s suggestions about Ofsted inspection.

Like many, I am concerned that so many members of the teaching = profession have become disenchanted with Ofsted.
A lot has changed since the days when HMI visits were the vehicle for = monitoring the work of schools; the respect that they commanded, and the great = skill that they had of promoting change by asking perceptive questions.
Some of this decline is to do with changes that have been made in recent = times, but not effectively communicated to schools.  Ofsted has admitted = that it has raised its expectations. It has also altered the way that it uses = data. It hasn’t really justified this so far beyond a couple of articles in the press. =  I think there should be more of a debate on these issues so that people = don’t think that the principles of school inspection are being made up on the = hoof.

But, as a fundamental consideration, inspection without any accompanying development implies that the sole reason for inspection is = accountability, whereas I would argue that the main purpose should be improvement.

I like the suggestion that Ofsted should make their evidence base more = available as a resource for  school development.
Ofsted do produce some very good publications. I rate one particularly = highly. It is ‘Twelve outstanding secondary schools – Excelling = against the odds’ http://www.ofsted.gov.uk/Ofsted-ho= me/Publications-and-research/Browse-all-by/Documents-by-type/Thematic-rep= orts/Twelve-outstanding-secondary-schools-Excelling-against-the-odds

There is so much here to set out the characteristics of = schools in which you will find our very best teachers and very best school = leaders.  Forget what league tables say.

There is actually a huge need to provide an opportunity for a debate on = how Ofsted compares schools with very differing pupil profiles, say a = selective school in a nice area, with an inner city secondary with a high = percentage of disadvantaged pupils. If the inspection system always favours the former = then something is very wrong.  John Dunford said of this that “A good = school serving a challenging area should have the same chance of a high grade = as a good school serving a less difficult area.”  I believe = that this will be the test of whether Ofsted is doing the job that is needed.

I think that more could be done to help schools understand the process = of evaluation. There are many such resources as the above that could do = much to support some regional or national one day events in this area.
I have tried to get my own thoughts together on issues to do with = inspection and the use of performance data in my first attempt at blogging. So a = plug is here for the interested – they will join the 1000+ visitors who = have already had a look at http://mikebostock.wordpress.co= m 

 

Regards

Mike Bostock

 

From: advisory-admin@talk.naace.org [mailto:advisory-admin@talk.naace.org] On Behalf Of Leon Cych
Sent: 20 March 2010 18:44
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Subject: Fw: Re: [Advisory] After = #Naace2010

 


Brian,

I would agree with some of these points but not others.

Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation = to the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall = running when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room.

With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to = shift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes = they still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but = I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other key = note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are = going.

What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages = of questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged = against those frameworks.

What isn't there?

1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive = management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers is not = good enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a professional = assessment system - not just be number crunchers.

2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to = schools is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are = going to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school = meals (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to = do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the = media. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to = engage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat = into the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why = is this not made more transparent?

So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because = "We do that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is = in retrograde at the moment as far as I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone = and schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a = particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force = or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then things begin = to happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, assessment and examination.

I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be = aware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction = between what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only = grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly = disaffected as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more = available.

If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more = relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just = have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what = they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't = working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something...

Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you = are looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of = that. Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them = bypassed exams and started their own companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of = tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this = country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another = opportunity lost.

If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses = imagination to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial = fence jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal responsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of = that one yet? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives = now. Guess not - oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a = whole as well...never mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not = that any of them will pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a = knock on in terms of culture and education although they are more than = morally bound to do so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our = belts and intellectually too I would hazard a guess...

The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to = think very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are = getting in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being = because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.

The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more = and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to = what people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit = for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that = are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on.

Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to = be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all = its challenges.

And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years:

Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision = when it comes to Education?

The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications = for a retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - = Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all = sorts of justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and = say these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run...

Leon Cych

 


--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith = <brian@briansmithonline.com> wrote:


From: Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com>
Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35

Following this year's conference, I'm = struggling to find solutions.

 

Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can = be counted and nit-picking over whether data-logging is being = 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the world's children are disengaging from = education en masse. (If they need datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - = and probably most do when they buy some technical Lego or a similar = toy).

 

The pressure to break the mould and throw out = the Victorian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building = towards bursting point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, = Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices = getting louder almost daily. 

 

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that = increasing global problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century = curriculum - and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll = be no world to live in.

 

So what's the solution?

Needless to say I haven't a = clue.

But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open = the ability to problem-solve and debate.

Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and = a global audience to our sessions.

You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand and many comments were being retweeted to = a global network of people by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples.

 

TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners = turning their back on Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a = global audience.

 

This global dimension is almost totally lacking = in the average classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which = wouldn't allow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have = 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which = he was using to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT = Show. Nothing reached his children without being filtered by him - yet = even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is = blocked.

 

How can children become the "people we = need" when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology can = bring?

 

Unlock the Web

My instinct is to unlock the web and let = teachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but that ignores Internet safety = issues.

 

The more I think about it the more I know that = it depends on age. But the starting point should be open access = and then lock down only as much as necessary.

Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open = access would be so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put = Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the children's = prospects.

 

So how about this. 

Consider the roads analogy. 
We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep = them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. 
But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. 
We do it by constantly explaining and = demonstrating. 

Not incessantly, just every time a road needs = to be crossed. 

In between we are talking about everything = else.

A suggestion:

On the net, then, I think we should direct = young children to safe sites for specific activities and have filters in = place so they can't go ANYWHERE else.

But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a = class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility = and the 11 years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access = points. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter = or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she = can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only = ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have = Twitterfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, = perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and = display.

Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and collaborate as the teacher holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate = internet safety training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety = training:
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-ne= ts-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm

 

 

So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, = two days after conference.

 

What do you think?

 

Brian Smith

 

 

---------------------------------------

Disclaimers about how this is intended for you = and if you aren't you, let me know.

Oh and by the way, the content *is* my = opinion.

 =

------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CAC93A.A4099CE0-- From paul.springford@naace.org Sun Mar 21 22:49:59 2010 From: paul.springford@naace.org (Paul Springford) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:49:59 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 - Twitter wall Message-ID: --0015174be31076ce4004825766da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Colleagues A couple of points about the use of Twitter at Blackpool. First, all keynote speakers were asked if they were happy with the display of tweeted comments. There was no pressure upon them to agree. Secondly, there were some comments on display which for various reasons - distracting, irrelevant, offensive, impolite... - might have been considered inappropriate by some people. So we have a powerful tool which engaged many people at Blackpool and around the world and at the same time created anxiety or worse for others (including the conference team). Sounds a bit like the regular debate about whether or not to block stuff in schools. At their post-conference review on Thursday, the use of Twitter was one of the issues the Board discussed. In thinking about the 2011 conference, they really would value your views. So if you attended, or joined in remotely, please do complete the online evalution at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Annual Conference and be sure to comment on the use of Twitter. Paul On 20 March 2010 19:37, theo kuechel wrote: > I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the > moment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable. I think we > should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report to > those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the > question session in a talk. > > This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues > http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.htm > > It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes > threatning to speakers. > > best > Theo > > > On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickinson wrote: > >> Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall ... Twitter is >> intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for all ... found >> myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt that I was >> being disrespectful ... didn't feel good >> >> Doug Dickinson >> Independent E-Learning Consultant >> doug@dougdickinson.co.uk >> Tel: 01509 265653 >> Mobile: 07889 712 208 >> Skype: dougjdickinson >> Web: www.dougdickinson.co.uk/blog >> ------- >> The creative spirit is a wild bird that will not sing in captivity - Van >> Dearing Perrine >> ------- >> "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a >> butterfly." >> >> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change >> something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." >> >> Buckminster Fuller >> ------ >> >> This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its >> contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the >> intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the >> sender does not accept legal responsibility for the content of this >> message. If the e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any >> attachments. >> >> On 20 Mar 2010, at 18:44, Leon Cych wrote: >> >> >> Brian, >> >> I would agree with some of these points but not others. >> >> Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to >> the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall >> running when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room. >> >> With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to shift >> up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes they >> still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school but >> I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the other >> key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things are >> going. >> >> What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages of >> questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against >> those frameworks. >> >> What isn't there? >> >> 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive >> management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers >> is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a >> professional assessment system - not just be number crunchers. >> >> 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools is >> held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going to >> bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search >> function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals >> (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to >> do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and >> proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. >> There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage >> other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into >> the dark ages. >> >> Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why is >> this not made more transparent? >> >> So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We do >> that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde >> at the moment as far as I'm concerned. >> >> So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and >> schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a >> particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching >> force or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then >> things begin to happen. People start to question the traditional models of >> planning, assessment and examination. >> >> I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be >> aware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction >> between what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will >> only grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly >> disaffected as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more >> available. >> >> If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more >> relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just >> have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what >> they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't >> working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something... >> >> Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are >> looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal >> computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. >> Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed >> exams and started their own companies... >> >> That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of tax >> benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this country. >> Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opportunity >> lost. >> >> If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination >> to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fence >> jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can >> explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal >> responsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that >> one yet? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley >> contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - >> oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never >> mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will >> pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in terms >> of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to do >> so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and >> intellectually too I would hazard a guess... >> >> The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to think >> very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are getting >> in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being because >> we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century. >> >> The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more and >> more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to what >> people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit for >> purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that are cul >> de sacs when it comes to moving this country on. >> >> Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be >> mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its >> challenges. >> >> And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: >> >> Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when it >> comes to Education? >> >> The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for >> a retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't >> ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of >> justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say >> these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... >> >> Leon Cych >> >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith * wrote: >> >> >> From: Brian Smith >> Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 >> To: advisory@talk.naace.org >> Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 >> >> Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. >> >> Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking >> over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime the >> world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they need >> datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when they >> buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). >> >> The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum >> with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too >> many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; >> their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily. >> >> And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems >> mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there >> may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in. >> See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRi8_fXz1D8 >> >> *So what's the solution?* >> Needless to say I haven't a clue. >> But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve >> and debate. >> Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our >> sessions. >> You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand >> and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of people by an >> educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. >> >> TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on >> Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and >> their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. >> >> This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. >> In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos from >> BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teacher on >> Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this was his >> own account on his own laptop which he was using to receive news from >> professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his children >> without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this >> freedom because Twitpic is blocked. >> >> How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers >> can't show them the benefits technology can bring? >> >> *Unlock the Web* >> My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their >> classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. >> >> The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But the >> starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much as >> necessary. >> >> Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be >> so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on the >> whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. >> >> So how about this. >> Consider the roads analogy. >> We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them >> shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. >> But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. >> We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating. >> Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed. >> In between we are talking about everything else. >> >> *A suggestion:* >> On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites >> for specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE >> else. >> >> But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class >> filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the >> 11 years old a lot more. >> >> AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. The >> teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter or any >> other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. >> Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only ever >> access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the >> big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with >> a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. >> >> Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and >> collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. >> Just like on the road. >> >> As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet >> safety training. >> >> And on that subject, see these two articles:: >> >> A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety >> training: >> >> http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html >> >> Managed rather than locked down: >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm >> >> >> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference. >> >> What do you think? >> >> Brian Smith >> >> >> --------------------------------------- >> Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't you, let >> me know. >> Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion. >> >> >> > > > -- > Theo Kuechel > Learning Technology Research > theo.kuechel@gmail.com > T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk > > > --0015174be31076ce4004825766da Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Colleagues

A couple of points about the use of Twitter at Blackpool.=

First, all keynote speakers were asked if they were happy with the=20 display of tweeted comments. There was no pressure upon them to agree.

Secondly, there were some comments on display which for various reasons - distracting, irrelevant, offensive, impolite... - might have been=20 considered inappropriate by some people.

So we have a powerful tool = which engaged many people at Blackpool and around the world and at the same= time created anxiety or worse for others (including the conference team). = Sounds a bit like the regular debate about whether or not to block stuff in= schools.

At their post-conference review on Thursday, the use of Twitter was one= of the issues the Board discussed. In thinking about the 2011 conference, = they really would value your views. So if you attended, or joined in remote= ly, please do complete the online evalution at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Annual Conference an= d be sure to comment on the use of Twitter.

Paul


On 20 March 2010 19:37, theo= kuechel <theo.kuechel@googlemail.com> wrote:
I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the mo= ment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable.=A0 I think w= e should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report t= o those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the = question session in a talk.

This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/= spectacle_at_we.htm

It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes= threatning to speakers.

best
Theo


On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickins= on <doug.dickinson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall = ... Twitter is intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for = all ... found myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt= that I was being disrespectful ... didn't feel good

Doug Dickinson
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Tel: 01509 265653
Mobile:= 07889 712 208
Skype: dougjdickinson
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The creative spirit is a wild bird that will not sing in= captivity - Van Dearing Perrine
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"There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you= it's going to be a butterfly."=A0

"= You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change somethi= ng, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."

Buckminster Fuller=A0
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This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its conte= nts to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended = purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the sender do= es not accept legal responsibility for the content of this message.=A0 If t= he e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments.

On 20 Mar 2010, at = 18:44, Leon Cych wrote:


Brian,

I would agree with some of these points but not others.

Certainl= y Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to the T= witter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall running wh= en someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room.

With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to sh= ift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes t= hey still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school= but I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the ot= her key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things ar= e going.

What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages = of questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against = those frameworks.

What isn't there?

1) Any formative syst= em of assessment that could offere positive management solutions - having a= n inspection force who are merely observers is not good enough - they need = to be made to engage as part of a professional assessment system - not just= be number crunchers.

2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools= is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are goi= ng to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful searc= h function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals = (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine= to do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden = and proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the med= ia. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to en= gage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat= into the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why i= s this not made more transparent?

So now we are expected to take the= communication out of ICT because "We do that well" and concentra= te on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde at the moment as far as= I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone a= nd schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a particu= larly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force = or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then things beg= in to happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, = assessment and examination.

I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be a= ware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction be= tween what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only= grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffe= cted as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available= .

If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more re= levant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just = have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what = they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn&#= 39;t working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something.= ..

Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you a= re looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal co= mputers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Som= e marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams = and started their own companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms= of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this = country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opport= unity lost.

If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imaginati= on to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fe= nce jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can = explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal respo= nsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one y= et? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley= contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not -= oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...neve= r mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them wi= ll pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in te= rms of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to d= o so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intel= lectually too I would hazard a guess...

The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to th= ink very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are gett= ing in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being = because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.

The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more = and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to w= hat people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not f= it for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones&#= 39; that are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on.

Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going = to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all= its challenges.

And I'll ask it again as I have done over the y= ears:

Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when= it comes to Education?

The next few months will see cutbacks and al= l sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of = "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a traged= y because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision = - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselve= s to blame in the long run...

Leon Cych


--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com><= /b> wrote:

From: Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com>
Subject: [Advisory] Af= ter #Naace2010
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35

Following this year's= conference, I'm struggling to find solutions.

Clear= ly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking over = whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime t= he world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they n= eed datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when = they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy).

The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victo= rian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursti= ng point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott,= David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder a= lmost daily.=A0

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increa= sing global problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century curric= ulum - and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'= ;ll be no world to live in.

So what's the solution= ?
Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But I do find that Web= 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate.
T= witterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our ses= sions.
You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in T= hailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of peopl= e by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back o= n Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - an= d their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the avera= ge classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't a= llow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovat= ive Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds access= ing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using= to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothi= ng reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a t= eacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is blocked.

How can children become the "people we need" = when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology can br= ing?

Unlock the Web
My instinct i= s to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but tha= t ignores Internet safety issues.

The more I think about it the more I know that it depen= ds on age. But=A0the starting point should be open access and then lock dow= n only as much as necessary.

Consider nursery and reception children= for example.=A0Open access would be so wrong for them.=A0Yet a primary tea= cher who can't put Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the= children's prospects.

So how about this.=A0
Consider the roads anal= ogy.=A0
We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so w= e keep them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut.=A0
Bu= t we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety.=A0
We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating.=A0
Not inces= santly, just every time a road needs to be crossed.=A0
In between= we are talking about everything else.

A suggestion:
On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for= specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHER= E else.

But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to= be a class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibi= lity and the 11 years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access point= s. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter= or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she= can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'l= l only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitt= erfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesso= n, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and = display.

Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and colla= borate as the teacher holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As= they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet safet= y training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A school that'= s praised for less filtered access with good safety training:
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety= -mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bb= c.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


<= div> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference.

What do you think?

Brian S= mith


------------------------------= ---------
Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't y= ou, let me know.
Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion.<= /div>

<= /blockquote>



--
Theo Kuechel
Learning Technology Research =A0
theo.kuechel@gmail.com=
T.Kuechel@hull.ac= .uk



--0015174be31076ce4004825766da-- From paul.springford@naace.org Sun Mar 21 23:00:29 2010 From: paul.springford@naace.org (Paul Springford) Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:00:29 +0000 Subject: [Advisory] Re: After #Naace2010 - Twitter wall In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: --000325557daafeca530482578b43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Apologies for the space which crept into the evaluation url. On 21 March 2010 22:49, Paul Springford wrote: > Colleagues > > A couple of points about the use of Twitter at Blackpool. > > First, all keynote speakers were asked if they were happy with the display > of tweeted comments. There was no pressure upon them to agree. > > Secondly, there were some comments on display which for various reasons - > distracting, irrelevant, offensive, impolite... - might have been considered > inappropriate by some people. > > So we have a powerful tool which engaged many people at Blackpool and > around the world and at the same time created anxiety or worse for others > (including the conference team). Sounds a bit like the regular debate about > whether or not to block stuff in schools. > > At their post-conference review on Thursday, the use of Twitter was one of > the issues the Board discussed. In thinking about the 2011 conference, they > really would value your views. So if you attended, or joined in remotely, > please do complete the online evalution at > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/AnnualConferenceConferenceand be sure to comment on the use of Twitter. > > Paul > > > On 20 March 2010 19:37, theo kuechel wrote: > >> I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the >> moment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable. I think we >> should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report to >> those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the >> question session in a talk. >> >> This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues >> http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.htm >> >> It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes >> threatning to speakers. >> >> best >> Theo >> >> >> On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickinson wrote: >> >>> Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall ... Twitter is >>> intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for all ... found >>> myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt that I was >>> being disrespectful ... didn't feel good >>> >>> Doug Dickinson >>> Independent E-Learning Consultant >>> doug@dougdickinson.co.uk >>> Tel: 01509 265653 >>> Mobile: 07889 712 208 >>> Skype: dougjdickinson >>> Web: www.dougdickinson.co.uk/blog >>> ------- >>> The creative spirit is a wild bird that will not sing in captivity - Van >>> Dearing Perrine >>> ------- >>> "There is nothing in a caterpillar that tells you it's going to be a >>> butterfly." >>> >>> "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change >>> something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." >>> >>> Buckminster Fuller >>> ------ >>> >>> This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its >>> contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the >>> intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore the >>> sender does not accept legal responsibility for the content of this >>> message. If the e-mail has come to you in error please delete it and any >>> attachments. >>> >>> On 20 Mar 2010, at 18:44, Leon Cych wrote: >>> >>> >>> Brian, >>> >>> I would agree with some of these points but not others. >>> >>> Certainly Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to >>> the Twitter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall >>> running when someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room. >>> >>> With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to >>> shift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes >>> they still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school >>> but I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the >>> other key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things >>> are going. >>> >>> What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages of >>> questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against >>> those frameworks. >>> >>> What isn't there? >>> >>> 1) Any formative system of assessment that could offere positive >>> management solutions - having an inspection force who are merely observers >>> is not good enough - they need to be made to engage as part of a >>> professional assessment system - not just be number crunchers. >>> >>> 2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools >>> is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are going >>> to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful search >>> function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals >>> (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine to >>> do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden and >>> proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the media. >>> There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to engage >>> other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat into >>> the dark ages. >>> >>> Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why is >>> this not made more transparent? >>> >>> So now we are expected to take the communication out of ICT because "We >>> do that well" and concentrate on a curriculum inspection that is in >>> retrograde at the moment as far as I'm concerned. >>> >>> So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone and >>> schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a >>> particularly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching >>> force or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then >>> things begin to happen. People start to question the traditional models of >>> planning, assessment and examination. >>> >>> I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be >>> aware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction >>> between what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will >>> only grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly >>> disaffected as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more >>> available. >>> >>> If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more >>> relevant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just >>> have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what >>> they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn't >>> working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something... >>> >>> Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you are >>> looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal >>> computers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. >>> Some marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed >>> exams and started their own companies... >>> >>> That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms of >>> tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this >>> country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another >>> opportunity lost. >>> >>> If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imagination >>> to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fence >>> jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can >>> explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal >>> responsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that >>> one yet? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley >>> contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not - >>> oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...never >>> mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them will >>> pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in terms >>> of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to do >>> so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and >>> intellectually too I would hazard a guess... >>> >>> The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to >>> think very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are >>> getting in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being >>> because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century. >>> >>> The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more >>> and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to >>> what people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not fit >>> for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones' that are >>> cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on. >>> >>> Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going to be >>> mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all its >>> challenges. >>> >>> And I'll ask it again as I have done over the years: >>> >>> Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when >>> it comes to Education? >>> >>> The next few months will see cutbacks and all sorts of justifications for >>> a retreat into more cost-effective models of "delivery" - Education isn't >>> ring-fenced and that is a tragedy because it will enable all sorts of >>> justifications for paucity of vision - if people don't stand up and say >>> these things - well we have ourselves to blame in the long run... >>> >>> Leon Cych >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On *Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Brian Smith >>> Subject: [Advisory] After #Naace2010 >>> To: advisory@talk.naace.org >>> Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35 >>> >>> Following this year's conference, I'm struggling to find solutions. >>> >>> Clearly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and >>> nit-picking over whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the >>> meantime the world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If >>> they need datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do >>> when they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy). >>> >>> The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victorian curriculum >>> with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursting point. Too >>> many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott, David Puttnam; >>> their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder almost daily. >>> >>> And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increasing global problems >>> mean that if we don't create a 21st century curriculum - and quickly - there >>> may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'll be no world to live in. >>> See what he showed at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRi8_fXz1D8 >>> >>> *So what's the solution?* >>> Needless to say I haven't a clue. >>> But I do find that Web 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve >>> and debate. >>> Twitterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our >>> sessions. >>> You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in Thailand >>> and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of people by an >>> educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples. >>> >>> TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back on >>> Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - and >>> their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience. >>> >>> This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the average classroom. >>> In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't allow my photos from >>> BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovative Year 4 teacher on >>> Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds accessing Twitter - this was his >>> own account on his own laptop which he was using to receive news from >>> professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothing reached his children >>> without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a teacher, wasn't given this >>> freedom because Twitpic is blocked. >>> >>> How can children become the "people we need" when even their teachers >>> can't show them the benefits technology can bring? >>> >>> *Unlock the Web* >>> My instinct is to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their >>> classes but that ignores Internet safety issues. >>> >>> The more I think about it the more I know that it depends on age. But the >>> starting point should be open access and then lock down only as much as >>> necessary. >>> >>> Consider nursery and reception children for example. Open access would be >>> so wrong for them. Yet a primary teacher who can't put Twitterfall on the >>> whiteboard is surely damaging the children's prospects. >>> >>> So how about this. >>> Consider the roads analogy. >>> We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so we keep them >>> shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut. >>> But we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety. >>> We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating. >>> Not incessantly, just every time a road needs to be crossed. >>> In between we are talking about everything else. >>> >>> *A suggestion:* >>> On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites >>> for specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHERE >>> else. >>> >>> But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to be a class >>> filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibility and the >>> 11 years old a lot more. >>> >>> AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access points. The >>> teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter or any >>> other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she can. >>> Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'll only ever >>> access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitterfall on the >>> big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesson, perhaps with >>> a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and display. >>> >>> Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and >>> collaborate as the teacher holds their hand. >>> Just like on the road. >>> >>> As they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet >>> safety training. >>> >>> And on that subject, see these two articles:: >>> >>> A school that's praised for less filtered access with good safety >>> training: >>> >>> http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety-mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html >>> >>> Managed rather than locked down: >>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm >>> >>> >>> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference. >>> >>> What do you think? >>> >>> Brian Smith >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------- >>> Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't you, let >>> me know. >>> Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Theo Kuechel >> Learning Technology Research >> theo.kuechel@gmail.com >> T.Kuechel@hull.ac.uk >> >> >> > --000325557daafeca530482578b43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Apologies for the space which crept into the evaluation url.

On 21 March 2010 22:49, Paul Springford <paul.springford@naace.o= rg> wrote:
Colleagues
A couple of points about the use of Twitter at Blackpool.

First, all keynote speakers were asked if they were happy with the=20 display of tweeted comments. There was no pressure upon them to agree.

Secondly, there were some comments on display which for various reasons - distracting, irrelevant, offensive, impolite... - might have been=20 considered inappropriate by some people.

So we have a powerful tool = which engaged many people at Blackpool and around the world and at the same= time created anxiety or worse for others (including the conference team). = Sounds a bit like the regular debate about whether or not to block stuff in= schools.

At their post-conference review on Thursday, the use of Twitter was one= of the issues the Board discussed. In thinking about the 2011 conference, = they really would value your views. So if you attended, or joined in remote= ly, please do complete the online evalution at http://www.surveymonkey.co= m/s/AnnualConferenceConference and be sure to comment on the use of Twitter.

Paul


On 20 March 2010 19:37, theo= kuechel <theo.kuechel@googlemail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border= -left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> I think Leon and Doug are right, it is very easy to get caught up in the mo= ment of the Twitter wall and it soon feels very uncomfortable.=A0 I think w= e should all agree it is best use Twitter as a tool to observe and report t= o those not physically present, and leave engaging with the speaker to the = question session in a talk.

This piece by danah boyd provides a good insight into the issues http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/= spectacle_at_we.htm

It would be shame to lose the benefits of the backchannel if it becomes= threatning to speakers.

best
Theo


<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 20 March 2010 19:19, Doug Dickinson <doug.dickinson@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Totally agree with the comment about the Twitter wall = ... Twitter is intended as a back-channel, not as a running commentary for = all ... found myself tweeting my thoughts as i would normally but then felt= that I was being disrespectful ... didn't feel good

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On 20 Mar 2010, at = 18:44, Leon Cych wrote:


Brian,

I would agree with some of these points but not others.

Certainl= y Ofsted's lack of direction came into high relief in relation to the T= witter Wall. But somehow I felt it unfair to have a Twitter Wall running wh= en someone was unaware of the comments going on in the room.

With Ofsted the problem has always been bean counting - they need to sh= ift up a gear if they are not going to be marginalised in the future. Yes t= hey still have power to determine the parameters by which to judge a school= but I think they are beginning to woefully lose their way judged by the ot= her key note contributors to the conference have outlined the way things ar= e going.

What happens currently is that head teachers are given pages and pages = of questions they have to answer which are then summatively judged against = those frameworks.

What isn't there?

1) Any formative syst= em of assessment that could offere positive management solutions - having a= n inspection force who are merely observers is not good enough - they need = to be made to engage as part of a professional assessment system - not just= be number crunchers.

2) No aggregation of meaningful data that would prove useful to schools= is held in any way that could be useful on the Ofsted site. If you are goi= ng to bean count then why not make it more transparent. Have a useful searc= h function that aggregated subjects, schools, data, outcomes, school meals = (:)) so it can be compared like for like - where's the data back engine= to do this - well overdue I would think or is it merely just to be hidden = and proprietorial so that dictats can be issued once in a while for the med= ia. There is no commutativity of data and sharing of data - no desire to en= gage other than measure by fixed parameters which, as we see, are a retreat= into the dark ages.

Try and search the PDF database and find patterns of inspection - why i= s this not made more transparent?

So now we are expected to take the= communication out of ICT because "We do that well" and concentra= te on a curriculum inspection that is in retrograde at the moment as far as= I'm concerned.

So we go back to a set of parameters that appear to be a comfort zone a= nd schools will be judged against them. An immutable tail wagging a particu= larly dozy dog. When the dog wakes up as it is doing in the teaching force = or the people observing activity around the teaching force, then things beg= in to happen. People start to question the traditional models of planning, = assessment and examination.

I guess it is to be expected Ofsted and QCDA appear to not seem to be a= ware of the possibilities of more recent social media or the disjunction be= tween what is now happening in the home and the school. This gulf will only= grow wider - the school population and parents become increasingly disaffe= cted as technology will become more ubiquitous and broadband more available= .

If you want more girls to do ICT then change the exam - make it more re= levant and interesting - personalise it - make sure people engage not just = have to do these increasingly disaffecting exams - for that surely is what = they are if 50 per cent of the pupils are using walking away. It just isn&#= 39;t working - saying people aren't engaging should tell you something.= ..

Sometimes unintended consequences cause the education and insight you a= re looking for. With programming it was the coming of the early personal co= mputers and the games written by amateurs at home off the back of that. Som= e marvellous programmers emerged from that - al lot of them bypassed exams = and started their own companies...

That whole industry still isn't acknowledged by government in terms= of tax benefits even though they make more than the film industry in this = country. Most of those companies have gone to Canada ... yet another opport= unity lost.

If you want people to do stuff that aids the economy and uses imaginati= on to do it, then devise something more than just husks of proprietorial fe= nce jumping for individuals. Bring in collaborative exams where people can = explore and work to their talents - make peer assessment and personal respo= nsibility ways in which you can assess. Anyone tried thinking of that one y= et? How about a vibrant, imaginative, "fun" curriculum completley= contextualised and relevant to the ways we live our lives now. Guess not -= oh dear - yet another fail...and for the country as a whole as well...neve= r mind the banks are beginning to be back in profit not that any of them wi= ll pay back in terms of social capital what they ruined as a knock on in te= rms of culture and education although they are more than morally bound to d= o so...in the meantime we'll be expected to pull in our belts and intel= lectually too I would hazard a guess...

The one big topic I took away from the conference is that we need to th= ink very carefully about assessment and exams - in some cases they are gett= ing in the way of actually adding to the country's economic well being = because we lack vision in the way we can educate for the 21st century.

The system we have at secondary level is enabling people to teach more = and more efficiently about less and less relevant things when it comes to w= hat people need in jobs and creative endeavor in some cases. It's not f= it for purpose - people are retreating into 'curricular comfort zones&#= 39; that are cul de sacs when it comes to moving this country on.

Sometimes I feel if someone doesn't do something soon we are going = to be mired in confusion and failure to respond to the 21st Century and all= its challenges.

And I'll ask it again as I have done over the y= ears:

Where is the vision and where is the courage to follow that vision when= it comes to Education?

The next few months will see cutbacks and al= l sorts of justifications for a retreat into more cost-effective models of = "delivery" - Education isn't ring-fenced and that is a traged= y because it will enable all sorts of justifications for paucity of vision = - if people don't stand up and say these things - well we have ourselve= s to blame in the long run...

Leon Cych


--- On Sat, 20/3/10, Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com><= /b> wrote:

From: Brian Smith <brian@briansmithonline.com>
Subject: [Advisory] Af= ter #Naace2010
To: advisory@talk.naace.org
Date: Saturday, 20 March, 2010, 16:35

Following this year's= conference, I'm struggling to find solutions.

Clear= ly Ofsted is still counting that which can be counted and nit-picking over = whether data-logging is being 'delivered' or not. In the meantime t= he world's children are disengaging from education en masse. (If they n= eed datalogging they can pick it up in an hour - and probably most do when = they buy some technical Lego or a similar toy).

The pressure to break the mould and throw out the Victo= rian curriculum with its deliver-and-test regime is building towards bursti= ng point. Too many bright people are saying it: Ken Robinson, Don Tapscott,= David Puttnam; their numbers are growing and their voices getting louder a= lmost daily.=A0

And finally, Lord Puttnam's film showed that increa= sing global problems mean that if we don't create a 21st century curric= ulum - and quickly - there may be no need for five A*- Cs because there'= ;ll be no world to live in.

So what's the solution= ?
Needless to say I haven't a clue.
But I do find that Web= 2.0 technologies open the ability to problem-solve and debate.
T= witterfall at conference added a dimension and a global audience to our ses= sions.
You do realise, don't you, that Chris Smith was participating in T= hailand and many comments were being retweeted to a global network of peopl= e by an educator in Ecuador. That's just two examples.

TeachMeet was real chalk-face practitioners turning their back o= n Government and Ofsted and getting together to share innovative ideas - an= d their sessions were streamed on Ustream to a global audience.

This global dimension is almost totally lacking in the avera= ge classroom. In its place we have locked-down systems which wouldn't a= llow my photos from BETT to be viewed by Pete Rafferty (@raff31) an innovat= ive Year 4 teacher on Merseyside. No, he didn't have 8-year-olds access= ing Twitter - this was his own account on his own laptop which he was using= to receive news from professional educators attending the BETT Show. Nothi= ng reached his children without being filtered by him - yet even he, as a t= eacher, wasn't given this freedom because Twitpic is blocked.

How can children become the "people we need" = when even their teachers can't show them the benefits technology can br= ing?

Unlock the Web
My instinct i= s to unlock the web and let teachers use Web 2.0 with their classes but tha= t ignores Internet safety issues.

The more I think about it the more I know that it depen= ds on age. But=A0the starting point should be open access and then lock dow= n only as much as necessary.

Consider nursery and reception children= for example.=A0Open access would be so wrong for them.=A0Yet a primary tea= cher who can't put Twitterfall on the whiteboard is surely damaging the= children's prospects.

So how about this.=A0
Consider the roads anal= ogy.=A0
We wouldn't let five year olds roam freely on the roads so w= e keep them shut indoors or safe in the garden with the gate shut.=A0
Bu= t we also go out onto the roads with them so they learn road safety.=A0
We do it by constantly explaining and demonstrating.=A0
Not inces= santly, just every time a road needs to be crossed.=A0
In between= we are talking about everything else.

A suggestion:
On the net, then, I think we should direct young children to safe sites for= specific activities and have filters in place so they can't go ANYWHER= E else.

But not a county filter or even a school filter. It needs to= be a class filter because the seven year olds will need a bit more flexibi= lity and the 11 years old a lot more.

AND, the class filter should be only on the children's access point= s. The teacher should have unfettered access so if she wants to use Twitter= or any other social networking site - or MSN - or Skype - or Ustream - she= can. Because she won't let the children on that computer and she'l= l only ever access these sites as part of a lesson. So she might have Twitt= erfall on the big screen for a particular purpose during a particular lesso= n, perhaps with a TA monitoring content in the seconds between receipt and = display.

Thus the children are safe but they also learn to communicate and colla= borate as the teacher holds their hand.
Just like on the road.

As= they grow older the filters come off but only with adequate internet safet= y training.

And on that subject, see these two articles::

A school that'= s praised for less filtered access with good safety training:
http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/Use-online-tool-nets-school-E-Safety= -mark/article-1812042-detail/article.html

Managed rather than locked down:
http://news.bb= c.co.uk/1/hi/education/8505914.stm


<= div> So those are my fairly random thoughts so far, two days after conference.

What do you think?

Brian S= mith


------------------------------= ---------
Disclaimers about how this is intended for you and if you aren't y= ou, let me know.
Oh and by the way, the content *is* my opinion.<= /div>

<= /blockquote>



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Learning Technology Research =A0
theo.kuechel@gmail.com=
T.Kuechel@hull.ac= .uk




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